Cut Out the Artisan Crap...Soap is Soap!
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It might be noise, but it is evolving, and so... it is AAAAAAAAALIVE!! ;-)
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"SOAP IS SOAP!!!" he cried....
Heck, might as well just shut down this sub-forum. LOL
Heck, might as well just shut down this sub-forum. LOL
Pantera is just like any other noise. Noise is noise!!!!!!!
And I reek of Tallow and Steel. BRING IT!!!!
And I reek of Tallow and Steel. BRING IT!!!!
I like the way you think but "artisan soap maker" is equivalent to microbrewery. It's still beer, but different to mass produced beer. You know, no aditives, ingredients usually not found in mass soaps, small batches, inconsistent QC
Legitimate question (OT), not an argument: Is Founders too big to be craft? Definitely no quality control issues there. So far I haven't had any bad Wholly Kaws, but let's face it I do not buy it as frequently as I do beer.
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I don't know but Founders KBS is pretty amazing.
Also does anybody know which artisan(s) kicked off this trend? This was not a thing at all in the mid 2000s.
I don't know but Founders KBS is pretty amazing.
Also does anybody know which artisan(s) kicked off this trend? This was not a thing at all in the mid 2000s.
I think you just described Arko. Red paper tube stuffed with soap with a lathered up grinning face on the wrapper. I think it's something silly cheap like $.30 a stick in the region it's made in too.
Godrej Round, same boat.
Bigfoot is Bigfoot!
So I actually took a class in beer & brewing at our local community college a couple of years back and "craft" means you produce less than 6 million barrels per year. The two largest craft breweries in the US are Sam Adams (Boston Beer Co) & Yuengling which are right at that limit, then I believe the next two are Sierra Nevada and New Belgium. Both of which just happen to have their East Coast locations approximately 8 miles from my home.
Founders is absolutely considered a "craft" brewery. However, like many "craft" breweries it is now a corporation owned by a parent company that is definitely not "craft" - With Founders it happens to be Mahou San Miguel of Spain.
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Yep, I think people often get "Craft" and "homebrew" confused.
I seem to remember the "artisan" trend started with bakeries and then took off from there. It was difficult to get good bread at the supermarket, bread was a product that was compromised so it could be made fast and cheap. Supermarket bread was full of air and all sorts of crap ingredients like bromated flour, dough conditioners, corn syrup, emulsifiers, cheap oil, too much salt, etc. If you went to the artisan bakery, you could get something that actually qualified as the staff of life.
Of course, that trend was franchised and co-opted later...
Of course, that trend was franchised and co-opted later...
I think it just sarted with shavers not finding what they wanted and deciding to try to make what they wanted.
Wouldn't know since I live in Europe xD
Just to clarify, I didn't mean to say that every small batch producer has inconsitent QC, but it is present more frequently than with mass producers...
I believe this 6 million barrels can't be used universally and it should be taught that way.
Total production of ALL breweries of our country in 2018 was 93 milion liters. 1 barrel is roughly 120 liters. That is roughly 775 000 barrels for the whole country. By that logic...all breweries in my country are craft?
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The 6 million barrel definition is used exclusively to define craft brewing in the USA by the Brewers Association. In all fairness and full disclosure it's likely set at that number so those big 4 that I previously mentioned can continue to define themselves that way.
Craft Brewer Definition
The craft brewer definition from the Brewers Association: An American craft brewer is small, independent and traditional.
I assume by your use of the metric system you are in Europe ("check out the big brain on Brad...that's right....the metric system" - Jules Winnfield) If I had to narrow it down with a guess, based on the reference in your username to an ancient Celtic festival I would guess either the UK or Ireland.
I have no idea about how they define craft beer in other countries, but I know I sure do enjoy those Samuel Smith imports from the UK as well as Westmalle & Rochefert and the other Trappist breweries from Belgium.
The world's largest brewery is, I think, ABInbev, a multinational based in Belgium. As a total company they produce well over 500 million barrels per year.
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Europe is bigger than I thought!
Only three countries in the world still use the Imperial system (USA, Liberia, and Myanmar).
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I thought the US used the English system, which Wikipedia tells me that us Brits abandoned in 1826 in favour of the Imperial system, which is why their pints and ounces are different to ours. Wikipedia also tell me that the US signed up to the metric system just 40 years later in 1866, and then just over 100 years later in 1975, they had another crack at getting it implemented there, but everyone ignored that too.
I think the rest of the world has pretty much given up on them adopting it now
