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Wierd encounter with a barber

So the other day I was coming out of the diner and I noticed across the street an American flag, a barber pole, and a sign saying "Old fashioned Barber Shop." Since my lurking on this forum I decided it would be interesting to peek inside and see what was going on in there. So I went in and this place looked like the real deal - Aqua Velva, Old Barber Chair, horse hair brush, Clubman, old time magazines, conservative talk radio from the corner, older barber who said he had been there for 20 some odd years. So the first thing my friend asked was whether he offered shaves. He said that he used to but in the late 80's the state told them not to because of AIDs so he got rid of his hot lather machine but he showed me his old strop and seemed very knowledgable - he told me all about the different strops and hones he used to use. I told him I was interested in traditional shaving and he thought I meant straight edge and looked at me like I was crazy - He was incredulous and was like "why in the world would you want to do that? You know what kind of gashes youll get with a straight edge if you cut yourself?? Why not just use a disposable razor - shave and throw it away, no cuts." I told him I use a badger hair brush to make lather and at first he asked me what I meant - apparently "badger brush" didnt ring a bell (even though he had one out as decoration - although he said it was just "a nice brush" that a woman brought him as a gift) and then finally he said oh you mean like this - and pulled out an old spice mug with a VDH boar brush. Then he asked why I would do that when I can just buy lather in a can for a dollar at the drug store.

I told him I was interested in DE razors and he wasnt sure what I meant so he pulled out a rolls razor and asked me if thats what I was talking about. I tried explaining and finally he pulled open a drawer that was full of injectors and other DE's and said - "oh you mean these??" Just then another customer came in and got in the conversation and said - oh yea DE razors we all used to use that but they dont work as well as the new ones - I still have one that I use sometimes to touch up my mustache. Youll need to go to antique shops to find those." The barber mentioned that I was interested in old ways of shaving and the customer had a laugh and said he remembered when they used to use the strop to spank them.

Finally he went to attend to his customer and I thanked him and walked out.
Im still trying to make sense of this old time barber - who was obviously knowledgable about straights, hones, strops - had a collection of straights, and strops, a bunch of rolls razors and injectors, a mug and brush - but couldnt believe that I would want to use them instead of disposables and canned goo :ohmy::confused::eek:
 
So the other day I was coming out of the diner and I noticed across the street an American flag, a barber pole, and a sign saying "Old fashioned Barber Shop." Since my lurking on this forum I decided it would be interesting to peek inside and see what was going on in there. So I went in and this place looked like the real deal - Aqua Velva, Old Barber Chair, horse hair brush, Clubman, old time magazines, conservative talk radio from the corner, older barber who said he had been there for 20 some odd years. So the first thing my friend asked was whether he offered shaves. He said that he used to but in the late 80's the state told them not to because of AIDs so he got rid of his hot lather machine but he showed me his old strop and seemed very knowledgable - he told me all about the different strops and hones he used to use. I told him I was interested in traditional shaving and he thought I meant straight edge and looked at me like I was crazy - He was incredulous and was like "why in the world would you want to do that? You know what kind of gashes youll get with a straight edge if you cut yourself?? Why not just use a disposable razor - shave and throw it away, no cuts." I told him I use a badger hair brush to make lather and at first he asked me what I meant - apparently "badger brush" didnt ring a bell (even though he had one out as decoration - although he said it was just "a nice brush" that a woman brought him as a gift) and then finally he said oh you mean like this - and pulled out an old spice mug with a VDH boar brush. Then he asked why I would do that when I can just buy lather in a can for a dollar at the drug store.

I told him I was interested in DE razors and he wasnt sure what I meant so he pulled out a rolls razor and asked me if thats what I was talking about. I tried explaining and finally he pulled open a drawer that was full of injectors and other DE's and said - "oh you mean these??" Just then another customer came in and got in the conversation and said - oh yea DE razors we all used to use that but they dont work as well as the new ones - I still have one that I use sometimes to touch up my mustache. Youll need to go to antique shops to find those." The barber mentioned that I was interested in old ways of shaving and the customer had a laugh and said he remembered when they used to use the strop to spank them.

Finally he went to attend to his customer and I thanked him and walked out.
Im still trying to make sense of this old time barber - who was obviously knowledgable about straights, hones, strops - had a collection of straights, and strops, a bunch of rolls razors and injectors, a mug and brush - but couldnt believe that I would want to use them instead of disposables and canned goo :ohmy::confused::eek:


go back an make him an offer ===> instant shave den.
 
offer a couple hundred, punt the stuff you dont want on the bay, and get to keep the good stuff for free. :biggrin:

depending on how much he has, and condition of course.
 
maybe it was a trick and he was hoping that HE could get YOUR stuff for a hundred bucks :lol:

seriously; this old barber has a totally different perspective on shaving than we have.
For him, it is a job that has to be done. That´s what he gets paid for.
And to be honest caned foam and stuff do make things a lot easier.

We do this because it is our hobby, not even though it´s difficult,
but BECAUSE of it

Imagine someone would come to your working space and tell you to use a typewriter and not your computer and printer
because it is more traditional
 
We do this because it is our hobby, not even though it´s difficult, but BECAUSE of it

I don't use a DE/brush/soap because it's difficult or traditional and shaving is not my hobby. I use a DE because the multiblades hurt my skin. Simple as that.
 
Really that story is not too uncommon today. Most Barber shops quit offering shaves 20 or 30 years ago and the new barbers are not just in tune to the shaving culture.
 
I had a similar coversation recently with my barber during a haircut. He can't use a traditional straight anymore due to the rules so he has to use a feather straight with disposable blades. He said they don't even teach straight shaving anymore at the colleges.

I then said I was about to try my first straight shave once all the gear arrives and he said I was nuts!! Told me he uses a straight on all his customers but would never use one on his own face!!
 
As much as I have respect for the Barber profession I have to admit that to many of them were mediocre or just plain bad in their knowledge, practice and customer relation skills.
 
That's amazing. You would think that an old time barber would see things from your perspective. Like everyone else said, maybe you can get his stuff from him, there might be a nice find or two in there.
Your story reminds me of when I try to talk to my friends about wet-shaving. They think I'm nuts. They talk about how much they hate shaving, what a pain it is, cost of carts, yada yada yada. I mention that it doesnt have to be that way, and explain the benefits of traditional wet shaving, but they simply do not want to add any more time or effort to their morning routine. I guess it's our whole mcdonaldized culture where people are more interested in convience rather than quality.
 
Remember: Just because we have some sick infatuation with getting that perfect shave doesn't mean everyone else does, including barbers. It's long been known that even barbers at Taylor of Old Bond Street, Trumpers, Truefitt & Hill, and all recommend using a cartridge (usually a Mach3) because they are easier and faster to use. Also, just because a barber doesn't use a straight or a DE doesn't mean he doesn't know anything. They just use what is easiest and fastest. I'm pretty sure that if I would have started using a DE at 18 years old without the internet to learn I'd have probably jumped ship also. It took reading a forum, buying the best creams and soaps available, and even then it took time and practice to get good shaves. All these resources weren't available 10 years ago so people used what they could. I agree with the other posters that mentioned that the barber is getting paid to give shaves that take 30 minutes. They probably don't want to take their work home with them.
 
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Having been in business for 20+ years means he started some time in the early 1980's, not exactly "old-time" in my book.

For some reason, when you pointed out the "eighties" I just had this vision of the barber, in his barber 4 pocket shirt, with blue "flock of seagulls" hair and Nagel prints on the wall... Not exactly old-time for sure.
 
Could have semi-been my barber. He has the strop still hanging from the chair but says the state told him to stop giving straight shaves back in the 80s when AIDS started appearing and hasn't done it since. He has not offered much in the line of opinions on DE shaving but certainly knows about it and is amused that anyone would do it, but does not recommend a particular method. We talked alot about straight razors. His familiarity was with razors offered in the barber supply catalogs - he knew of names like CMon and Dubl Duck and actually grabbed a recent supply catalog looking for them (not realizing they are long gone as far as that goes). I brought my razors in for him to look at and he examined them and stropped them up for me (his technique was excellent). He said he could hone them up if I wanted as he still had his barber hones. Talked about putting lather on the hones and all that too. I still haven't convinced him to give a straight shave.
 
You don't seem to understand that most ( or at least a very large number) of guys who originally learned to shave with DEs but migrated to multiblade disposables, would never ever go back to DEs and cannot imagine why anyone would want to. I'm in my mid-thirties and all of the older men in my family think I'm insane for using what they used to butcher their faces with.

The opinions on this board represent the minority, not the majority. There are many men who can get a better or equally good shave with a multiblade as they can with a DE with half the effort. Convenience and "technology" is what drives most consumers. I love wetshaving, but I don't understand why folks judge or try to convert folks that use canned goo and disposables. What's better for you is not necessarily better for everyone.
 
exactly mars,
and that´s why I always get into trouble when I explain people what I do,
the honing, the shaving with straights wich requires a lot of effort to learn etc.
then everybody asks if I get better shaves of it
and to be honest I have to say no, I don't.
The reason why I get better and closer shaves than I got before (using a Mach3)
is the fact that I simply have to take more care.
Using the straight and honing tought me to be carefull and develop skill.
If you give me a Mach3 and any shaving cream I can get a perfect shave
 
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