'Tea Party' movement?
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If someone can explain in a sentence or 2 what they want I may care, but most of this just seems silly to me. 
I think that the Tea Party is capitalizing on negative feelings towards Congress and the President, and without such a backboard, they'll have a tough time establishing themselves as a party that isn't "the righter wing of the Republican base."
I also feel that it's going to be impossible for this thread to remain dispassionate and politically neutral.
Without prejudice or offense to the thread submitter, I think the Mods should lock and/or delete this thread quickly.
I also feel that it's going to be impossible for this thread to remain dispassionate and politically neutral.
Without prejudice or offense to the thread submitter, I think the Mods should lock and/or delete this thread quickly.
We have no problem with discussions about current issues. Just keep it civil and analytical.
I think both major political parties are quickly diverging from the view points mainstream Americans. Both are trending to more and more extreem in their views, and both seem to be taking a all or none policy in that you have to accept all the principals and views of the party or you are not a good republican or democrat. Thus they are driving more and more people away who don't fully accept the party line.
I for one think that a strong 3rd party that fell more to the center would be a good thing. Even having to seat 20 or 30 independant congressman next year would send a good message to both parties.
I for one think that a strong 3rd party that fell more to the center would be a good thing. Even having to seat 20 or 30 independant congressman next year would send a good message to both parties.
I'd also get rid of all lobbyists, pac money, special interest groups, etc. and force the congressmen already in office to make decisions based on unbiased facts not based on whoever is paying them the most. It's a 2 party system, but the big companies are throwing money on both sides of the fence to get their interests met. Unless that stops, a 3rd party and new blood may not be enough to really make any changes that will reach the average citizen.
But what do I know?
I'd also get rid of all lobbyists, pac money, special interest groups, etc. and force the congressmen already in office to make decisions based on unbiased facts not based on whoever is paying them the most. It's a 2 party system, but the big companies are throwing money on both sides of the fence to get their interests met. Unless that stops, a 3rd party and new blood may not be enough to really make any changes that will reach the average citizen.
But what do I know?
Probably more than most officeholders brother.
That's the way things should be. [RANT ON] I'm a bit tired of politics being played out as if it's a team sport with one side wins and America loses and we all get taxed as a result. It's great to see republicans, democrats and independents in the Tea Party movement do what's necessary to show politicians that they're tired of politics and demand results. There was a time where both parties worked together to improve things but that has not been the case for a few generations. Time to hit the reset button and make things happen again before nothing's left. [/RANT] I feel better now. Time to go sharpen my pitch fork.
The only thing that is going to change the way politicians deal with the public is if they can't be lifelong politicians.
This would mean passing some type of binding law that would create term limits at a future target date, say 50 or 75 years from now, and which would require a super majority to bring it to a public referendum to reverse so that all of the guys who voted for it would still be able to sate their greedy needs by serving the rest of their lives in the politico.
But of course that would mean that none of us would ever see the benefit of it, and in any case we as a nation may be able to last that long anyway.
This would mean passing some type of binding law that would create term limits at a future target date, say 50 or 75 years from now, and which would require a super majority to bring it to a public referendum to reverse so that all of the guys who voted for it would still be able to sate their greedy needs by serving the rest of their lives in the politico.
But of course that would mean that none of us would ever see the benefit of it, and in any case we as a nation may be able to last that long anyway.
You get the opportunity to set term limits for your senator every 6 years and congressman every 2. Just vote their sorry butts out. I don't think I have ever voted for a incumbant, but I could be wrong. Now if we could only find somone to run against these idiots, we would be in good shape
Darn! I wanted to be in before "in before the lock!"
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Spot on. Also some of the signs at these "tea party" rallies are unbelievably offensive. These are not sentiments that can possibly resonate with the American mainstream. This whole "grassroots" movement is just an initiative for a lobbying interest called Freedom Works, which is run by former Republican Speaker of the House Dick Armey. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/16/10-most-offensive-tea-par_n_187554.html
Thank goodness for the glaring white spotlight of truth that is the Huffington Post.
Good luck with that. I'm afraid that the polarization of the parties is due, in part, to the ease with which it happens. Diametric opposites on all issues require much less thought than reasoned moderation. It's a sound bite knee-jerk nation out there and it's hard to see that changing any time soon.
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Between them and fox"news" its no wonder our elected officials are FUBAR
Between them and fox"news" its no wonder our elected officials are fubar
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As someone rather left of center, I truly do not see the Dems moving towards me in any way. Others will certainly disagree, but in my opinion both parties have shifted to the right.
A third or even a fourth party would be nice as for the tea partiers I've no idea what pulse they have their finger on, they're trying to return to an Amerca and American values that never exisited.
It's a shame America can criticize every other country and government in the world but cannot turn a critical eye in towards itself.
Back in the 50's and 60's Republicans and Democrats would fight bitterly on the floors of the Senate and the House for their points of view and eventually find points of compromise, and after hours all of them would go out to the bars together for drinks.
As it is now the Republicans and Democrats neither respect each other, this country nor the constituencies that voted them in, but more respect the dollars of big business, and the lobbyists.
Right now Bernie Sanders may be the last of a dying breed - Statesmen
It's a shame America can criticize every other country and government in the world but cannot turn a critical eye in towards itself.
Back in the 50's and 60's Republicans and Democrats would fight bitterly on the floors of the Senate and the House for their points of view and eventually find points of compromise, and after hours all of them would go out to the bars together for drinks.
As it is now the Republicans and Democrats neither respect each other, this country nor the constituencies that voted them in, but more respect the dollars of big business, and the lobbyists.
Right now Bernie Sanders may be the last of a dying breed - Statesmen
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I'd also get rid of all lobbyists, pac money, special interest groups, etc. and force the congressmen already in office to make decisions based on unbiased facts not based on whoever is paying them the most. It's a 2 party system, but the big companies are throwing money on both sides of the fence to get their interests met. Unless that stops, a 3rd party and new blood may not be enough to really make any changes that will reach the average citizen.
But what do I know?
Sounds like a good start to me.
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