They have a "Short". It's 8oz. What's after "Short"? "Tall" of course. What's next? Large, or "Grande". Still not big enough? Try the Twenty, or "Venti".I always order a large bold Misto.
I refuse to use the nonsensical Venti, Grande, Tall-Super-Grande, Extra-Grande, Venti-Grande, etc. I mean, how could something called a Tall or a Grande not be large...yet it's not. Small, medium and large works just fine. No ambiguity.
They have a "Short". It's 8oz. What's after "Short"? "Tall" of course. What's next? Large, or "Grande". Still not big enough? Try the Twenty, or "Venti".
It's not "uhmurcan" but it's still in agreement with common sense.
The Short has always been there. They don't put it on their visible menu because they want you to buy more. The reason I believe that they call their extra extra large "Venti" is to try to trick you into believing that it's legitimate when no self-respecting Italian would ever drink any coffee-drink bigger than ~5.5oz. Filter coffee as we know it is strictly an American thing, and a cappuccino greater than ~5.5oz in final volume isn't a cappuccino at all.As has oft been said, common sense is not very common...
I could be wrong, but I think the short is a newer addition to the menu (for a long time, I only remember seeing Tall, Grande, or Venti.) Maybe it was an option but not on the big menu?
Point being that Tall seemed pretty silly for the smallest of the three drinks.
I still think Grande makes the most sense for describing the largest drink, not the middle one.
And yes, Venti means twenty, but I don't speak Italian. And why would they go from describing sizes for the first two names to having the third name signify the amount it holds, in ounces? Common sense would lead one to be consistent.
(Hopefully you know this is all tongue-in-cheek, and I know Starbucks is doing just fine without my permission! )
The Short has always been there. They don't put it on their visible menu because they want you to buy more. The reason I believe that they call their extra extra large "Venti" is to try to trick you into believing that it's legitimate when no self-respecting Italian would ever drink any coffee-drink bigger than ~5.5oz. Filter coffee as we know it is strictly an American thing, and a cappuccino greater than ~5.5oz in final volume isn't a cappuccino at all.
I could go on about drink names and definitions, but that's probably better left for another thread and time.
If the barista isn't already equipped to handle the situation well, then I question the quality of said establishment. There is more to specialty coffee retailing than just the coffee. Like any high end service enterprise, service is of great importance. Legitimacy cannot be bought (like CC Coffee, or coffee from any other high end roaster).. it is the result of a complete package.I have an odd hobby.
I sit in legit coffee shops - there are a couple around here that serve Counter Culture, and a couple that serve other coffee - and wait. I wait, and I watch. I watch for people who are so utterly and completely lost in any coffee shop other than Starbucks. And I watch them order a Caramel Macchiato. And then I watch the barista's face as he decides how exactly to field such a request.
Hours of fun.
If the barista isn't already equipped to handle the situation well, then I question the quality of said establishment. There is more to specialty coffee retailing than just the coffee. Like any high end service enterprise, service is of great importance. Legitimacy cannot be bought (like CC Coffee, or coffee from any other high end roaster).. it is the result of a complete package.