My wife bought me a Semogue 830 some years ago for Christmas, because I asked her to. Anyway it has never been able to lather properly, I have tried everything and every soap and cream. It seems to lather OK initially but as you start loading your beard after about 30 seconds of moving the brush around the face it starts to disappear until the lather is almost reduced to a thin cream/milk. It's quite a thing to see but very annoying as I like the brush but can't use it. It does not matter how much soap I use it simply vanishes! I have other boar brushes from Omega that make great lather with the same product, water and technique so ever since I have avoided Semogue like the plague just in case I get another like it.