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Sandpaper Hone Test

So I was curious if I could put a shave edge on a Wade and Butcher I rescaled and had the blade restored on awhile back with nothing but sandpaper, canvas and leather strop. Now I have never really honed before so I am well aware that doing it myself was a terrible idea but I was bored and curious and when that strikes me I test things. Now why this particular idea struck me is that I love the way this razor looks, beautiful big blade with a nice slight smile to it, classic big boy W&B, problem is I don't really shave with straights and when I got the blade worked on I didn't get it honed for that very reason. My lack of use of straights also leads me to not want to actually shell out any money to get any decent honing done to it. So there it sits, sad lonely, unable to fulfill it's purpose of removing hair from a face and there I sit wanting really bad to at least use it one time.

So I get the razor and start looking for sandpaper. Unfortunately all I have for sandpaper in pristine condition is one 1000 grit piece. Undaunted I say the heck with it and give it a go. Now this razor would not cut worth a darn before this so after a few tries across the paper I give it a test on the hair of my hand and by golly it shaved. So I work just a little more not really wanting to get to crazy lest my inexperience causes harm that can't be undone and then move on to the canvas strop and leather strop. Finish there and give it a go. I received an answer to two questions. Can you hone with just 1000 grit sandpaper, canvas and leather strop and get a razor that can shave? Yes you can. Is the razor sharp enough to provide a tugless comfortable relaxing shave? No it is not. If you are in a pinch need to shave badly and that is your only option to fix your blade to shave by all means go ahead and do it. You'll receive a shave that is nice and close for sure but the shave experience is certainly lacking it comparison to a nice honed straight.
 
Ambitious to say the least! Never tried it myself but I've now got enough stones to build another house. Do you have any other straights that you can compare with? I think you'll see a huge difference between 1k and a shave ready razor and you'll probably change your conclusions. Just saying though.
 

Legion

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I'm glad you have satisfied your curiosity.

Any of you US guys want to help out here, before I start to feel actual pain? :crying:
 
Oh I wouldn't call it shave ready at all. I had a razor honed up nice and shave ready by a member here a while back and the difference is night and day. I was just stating that you can get a razor to a place where it will cut the hair on your face kind of ok with just sandpaper and the strops. Would I suggest it? No way. Possible but if you plan on actually shaving with your straight more than just a one time get it honed.
 
Thanks for posting your results. Too bad they don't make 10,000x wet-dry (or are we moving into lapping film territory here?). I've heard of using powdered abrasives for lapping, and obviously there are some fine ones for stropping, So maybe, between the 1000x and the 10,000x there might be a further path to take.

Beyond this, I've been told that my beard is like sandpaper. If I skip a day or two of shaving, maybe I can hone with it. ;-)
 
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I tried to set bevel on a GD before buying any stones.But I had to start with 600 sand paper to set bevel. then moved up until 2Kpaper.
Then moved to a 4K/8K winner barber hone then to a carborundum 102. then I finished it with c12K.
It made the razor shavable but lot of deep scratches on the bevel.

Needless to say shave was painful.
 
i used to shave off a 6k king waterstone.....


i still can....

i may do it and make a video.... we shall see....
 
Actually, they DO make sandpaper above 10K. Hobby Lobby has a full progression for under $8. It works a lot better than you might think as long as you use spray adhesive and keep it nice and flat. Just be aware that lower grits can be pretty damaging if you aren't careful.

Thanks for posting your results. Too bad they don't make 10,000x wet-dry (or are we moving into lapping film territory here?). I've heard of using powdered abrasives for lapping, and obviously there are some fine ones for stropping, So maybe, between the 1000x and the 10,000x there might be a further path to take.

Beyond this, I've been told that my beard is like sandpaper. If I skip a day or two of shaving, maybe I can hone with it. ;-)
 
Actually, they DO make sandpaper above 10K. Hobby Lobby has a full progression for under $8. It works a lot better than you might think as long as you use spray adhesive and keep it nice and flat. Just be aware that lower grits can be pretty damaging if you aren't careful.

Thanks for the reference. I looked there, but couldn't find anything very high. Could you provide a link to the progression you mention?
 
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