Can someone post a pic of version 1 and version 2 side by side?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Can someone post a pic of version 1 and version 2 side by side?
Thanks.
This is news to me, too.I wasn't aware that there were two versions. When did V. 2 come out? What is the difference in the two versions?
I wasn't aware that there were two versions. When did V. 2 come out? What is the difference in the two versions?
I asked Muehle years ago when this discussion came up about it first, and they said there is only one version. And yes, they have a black fibre as well, but it is a total different beast, totally different from the STF.
I use their knots for many years, and have never seen a difference at all.
not strange at all. it is called marketing. mind you, there is only "v1" r41, isn't it? otherwise muhle would have advertised v2. or not?So they just changed position of their logo on the handle and people thought it was a V2? Could be... Still it's strange that even specialized shops sell them as "V2"...
not strange at all. it is called marketing. mind you, there is only "v1" r41, isn't it? otherwise muhle would have advertised v2. or not?
regardless, pictures of what is considered to be stf v1 vs vs would be nice. close-ups would be fine as well.
There are two ways they set knots. I have seen 19, 21 and 23 with the chrome plated ring (actually, the crimped end of the plastic cup their synthetics are set in). The 25 mm never shows the ring.
I would say the two brushes in the picture are different size. In all the years I have bought knots from Muehle, I only received the 25 mm with out the chrome ring, and the smaller sizes are always with chrome ring, the cup can be either translucent whitish or black (from my experience the 23 was black and 21 and 19 came in the white cup).
The black is a total different fibre, always without the ring and has a black cup.
As I said before, when this V1 and V2 thing came up, I asked and was told there is only one type of the STF material (which are btw hand-tied in Germany and they have a video showing the process on their site).
I attach a couple of pictures here. The one shows the 23 and the 21 side by side, I took it for another Muehle STF post here, then I have one of the 25 mm knot.
The last one shows two knots from one I did remove the cup (to set deeper for loft change for someone) - cup removal was not always successful, so I stopped doing it. This last picture i took 6 years ago, the first one here was just a coupe days ago (side-by-side 23/21).
I had asked them if it possible to obtain 19-23 without the ring, but they said it is not possible.View attachment 962443 View attachment 962444 View attachment 962445