Mont Blanc Boheme Noir Retractable Tip FP

[MikekiM]

Wondering if any of you fine gents can help me..

In my collection of 'stuff' I have a Mont Blanc Boheme Noir FP. I am the original owner and haven't used it in years.. If I remember correctly, I used it for a few months, cleaned it and put it away...

It is quite possible I have one from the first production year, 1999, but I am not familiar with the coding on the box.. Also, I have been told that shortly after the initial release, the 'Noir' engraving which appeared on the primary barrel ring, became a subject of possible copyright infringement and the name was no longer engraved on future iterations of this pen. I have yet to substantiate this through any authority.

That said, mine has this engraving.

I do believe I have the original box, and all that would accompany it.

I am hoping to garner any and all info I can...

Though I am traveling, I will update with pictures once I can.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Isaac]

Info as far as what? The Boheme's are lovely pens, and I love mine. We dont give price evaluations here on pens if that is what you are looking for.

 

[andrew98]

Info as far as what? The Boheme's are lovely pens, and I love mine. We dont give price evaluations here on pens if that is what you are looking for.

Like whether it is in fact a first year model.

-Andy

 

[MikekiM]

I'm not looking for an appraisal on it.. Just looking to see if there are any Mont Blanc aficionados or someone with a little history on the models. I assumed we had a Nib forum to discuss.... Pens.

 

[syngent]

Id love to help Mike, but im not a MontBlanc guy, I know we have more then a few MB guys around though, who love both new and vintage models, if no one comes along ill see if I can google out some help for you on the weekend though, usually a pen brand has some cool guy out there who loves the history so much they have a webpage somewhere out there with all the info you could handle

kind of like MrRazor does with Gillette razors

 

[BubblesTGB]

I will update with pictures once I can.

cant wait to see it.

 

[Isaac]

Pming you with some info on your pen.

 

[maxman]

You can ask their customer service too. It's hit and miss though.
Sometimes they give you basic info and sometimes they don't.

 

[MikekiM]

Now that I am home, and can look closer... The model number is the 05049.

http://www.premierwatchshop.com/new...049-retractable-fountain-pen-05049-p-696.html

I haven't found anything about the 'Noir' tales I've heard, but I'll keep digging. Also, nothing on the model year..

 

[MikekiM]

Further narrowed it down, based on the label on the box...

The 25110-05049 is still in production albeit without the Noir et Noir engraving and with three bands on the barrel. Retails for $645 on Amazon. No idea as to the collectibility of mine or of the year of production...yet. If only I could read 'Bar Code'.

 

[andrew98]

It says it has a retractable nib, but then no one ever shows photos of the pen with the nib retracted online. The show it capped and uncapped. What's the point of having a retractable nib and a cap?

-Andy

 

[Snargle]

It says it has a retractable nib, but then no one ever shows photos of the pen with the nib retracted online. The show it capped and uncapped. What's the point of having a retractable nib and a cap?

Seems like something from the Department of Redundancy Department...

 

[andrew98]

Seems like something from the Department of Redundancy Department...

My thoughts exactly.

-Andy

 

[MikekiM]

It says it has a retractable nib, but then no one ever shows photos of the pen with the nib retracted online. The show it capped and uncapped. What's the point of having a retractable nib and a cap?

-Andy

Well, not so much redundancy...

Unlike other retractable nib FP, like the Nakimi and later the Pilot's which had a seal once the nib was retracted which was to prevent drying out, the Noir et Noir and later the Boheme, had no such provisions. Twisting the top of the barrel retracted the nib and inking system into the barrel. But if you looked at the front of it, the nib is plainly visiable.. so the cap does indeed play a purpose.

I'll have some pics up over the weekend.

 

[andrew98]

I assumed that's how it worked, but the retracting mechanism isn't necessary since there's a cap, unless the goal is to make a pen with a short cap. It seems like a good way to add cost with no real benefit, other than a little novelty factor.

-Andy

 

[MikekiM]

I assumed that's how it worked, but the retracting mechanism isn't necessary since there's a cap, unless the goal is to make a pen with a short cap. It seems like a good way to add cost with no real benefit, other than a little novelty factor.

-Andy

Or to simply make a shorter pen that once open and extended is the size of a standard pen..

 

[nemo]

...the retracting mechanism isn't necessary since there's a cap, unless the goal is to make a pen with a short cap. It seems like a good way to add cost with no real benefit, other than a little novelty factor.

Not a novelty, nor redundant. It harkens back to the period of safety pens one hundred years ago, dominated by European pen makers. The nib retracts to seal the ink tank and the cap's inner surface further seals the pen to prevent any leaking.

Look at this beautiful Meisterstück #20 here

 

[andrew98]

Not a novelty, nor redundant. It harkens back to the period of safety pens one hundred years ago, dominated by European pen makers. The nib retracts to seal the ink tank and the cap's inner surface further seals the pen to prevent any leaking.

Look at this beautiful Meisterstück #20 here

I've never heard of such at thing! Very interesting, Doug. Thanks for the link. Every day's a school day.

-Andy

 

[MikekiM]

Thank you...

For those who were asking for pictures in the retracted position, here it is the open and retracted... albeit the Boheme version, not the Noir et Noir.

 

[andrew98]

Lovely pen!

-Andy