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Lard rather than tallow?

Last Saturday, I attended a craft show with my wife. While wandering about, I came upon some soaps made on a farm in southern Alabama. A display of inexpensive shave brushes caught my eye, drawing my attention to a basket of small shaving soaps. I felt in an adventurous mood, so I bought one. This has got to be the slipperiest soap I've ever used! However that's about the only good thing I can say about it. I've bee trying for four days to get a decent lather, but have been only able to obtain an airy, sudsy foam. The foam provides a slick film, but absolutely no cushion whatsoever and quickly dries. The film is quite oily and hard to rinse. The thin film allows a close shave, but with no cushion it is quite uncomfortable. Although the soap was said to be bay rum scented, the predominent scent is oiliness.

Here's the ingredient list: lard, coconut oil, palm oil, castor oil, sodium hydroxide, French green clay, and essential oil.

Just as tallow is rendered beef fat, lard is rendered pork fat. Theoretically, just about any fat or oil can be combined with lye (sodium hydroxide) to make soap. However this formula doesn't seem to work.

If you happen to run across shaving soap from Gray-Zen Acres Farm, proceed with caution.

-Clarke
 
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Might be all those oils. I bought some shaving soap from a local place and it was made out of a bunch of oils and the lather was worthless.
 
Don't think I've ever had lard-based soap. Maybe they didn't do any serious product testing before offering it up for sale?
 
The soap's very hard and I don't notice much of a bay rum scent. Mostly, it smells like cooking oil. Must be the lard. My yellow lab likes it though!

-Clarke
 
Here's the ingredient list: lard, coconut oil, palm oil, castor oil, sodium hydroxide, French green clay, and essential oil.

Variation on one of the many non-functional shaving soap 'recipes' that can be found on the internet. Lard instead of tallow (which would make for a bad substitution anyway), too much coconut oil (assuming that the ingredients are listed in the correct order), likely too much castor oil, and the wrong lye.

Rule of thumb for any purported shaving soap, and especially a soap touted as 'natural' or 'homemade': stay away from anything that does not list 'stearic' acid AND potassium hydroxide before sodium hydroxide, unless it has heaps of synthetic foam stabilizers (surfactants).

It IS possible to make a 'natural' shaving soap with no synthetic ingredients, but it is by no means trivial.

Henk
 
My name is Marj and I am the owner/soapmaker from Gray-Zen Acres. I was quite surprised when your post appeared during a google search. First, let me begin by offering you a full refund for the product that dissatisfied you. I have been making soaps for many years but I admit that this was my first venture with shaving soap. My recipe has been tested by several others (men and women) and as with all my recipes is subject to revision and re-testing as indicated. To answer some of the posted comments; cream and/or liquid soaps are made with potassium hydroxide not bar soaps, I do use all natural ingredients (as much as possible) and have added steric acid and decreased coconut oil in the latest revision. I would like to offer you a chance to test my latest shaving soap recipe if you are interested (free of charge of course). This recipe contains palm, olive, coconut, castor, shea butter and steric acid, aloe vera juice, fragrance and a tiny amount of sugar. There are 2 fragrances Bay Rum and Cool Water (I call it night rider). I do not use a great deal of fragrance because of the potential for skin irritation. Most folks who buy natural, handmade soaps do so to protect sensitive skin. I am sorry for the long post but I felt a need to defend myself and my product. Please PM me to arrange for the refund and let me know if you would like to test the new reicpe.
Marj
Gray-Zen Acres
Handmade Natural Soap
 
Hi Marj,
Welcome to B&B

I will be sending you a PM with some info for you as a vendor on our site.
You will find a great group of avid shaveaholics here with a vast knowledge about soaps to call on for help and product development.

Good luck.
 
My name is Marj and I am the owner/soapmaker from Gray-Zen Acres. I was quite surprised when your post appeared during a google search. First, let me begin by offering you a full refund for the product that dissatisfied you. I have been making soaps for many years but I admit that this was my first venture with shaving soap. My recipe has been tested by several others (men and women) and as with all my recipes is subject to revision and re-testing as indicated. To answer some of the posted comments; cream and/or liquid soaps are made with potassium hydroxide not bar soaps, I do use all natural ingredients (as much as possible) and have added steric acid and decreased coconut oil in the latest revision. I would like to offer you a chance to test my latest shaving soap recipe if you are interested (free of charge of course). This recipe contains palm, olive, coconut, castor, shea butter and steric acid, aloe vera juice, fragrance and a tiny amount of sugar. There are 2 fragrances Bay Rum and Cool Water (I call it night rider). I do not use a great deal of fragrance because of the potential for skin irritation. Most folks who buy natural, handmade soaps do so to protect sensitive skin. I am sorry for the long post but I felt a need to defend myself and my product. Please PM me to arrange for the refund and let me know if you would like to test the new reicpe.
Marj
Gray-Zen Acres
Handmade Natural Soap

Welcome to B&B Marj! We look forward to hearing more about your products!
 
I have made a shave soap with lard, just because I had some around :001_rolle , and it turned out fine for me. Now, by fine, I will admit that the lather was thin, but being one of my first shave soaps it was fairly likely to happen anyway.
So basically, just saying that it may not be fair to blame lard :lol:
 
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