Not to get lost in the other monster thread (>40 pages now), what is the difference in the V1 versus V2 Ares from Lambda? Surely its more than metal options. I assume it is something like the early Muhle R41 vs the modern Muhle R41 (Zamaks) or the Muhle 41GS in stainless which all have slightly different head geometries.
Lambda Ares V1 vs. V2
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V1 has slightly more blade feel I think...and so, little more efficient.
V2 came about as some complained that V1 was a bit too much, exposure-wise.
V2 is obviously weighted more on the side of comfort than efficiency
V2 came about as some complained that V1 was a bit too much, exposure-wise.
V2 is obviously weighted more on the side of comfort than efficiency
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To be clear, I haven’t used an Ares v1, but….
The Ares v1 had a small amount of positive blade exposure, and the v2 has zero blade exposure (like the Athena which was released in-between the Ares versions). With the particular head design that the Ares and Athena have, it turned out that even this small amount of positive exposure made the Ares v1 a quite aggressive razor - ok for those who are used to high aggression and blade feel, but not as comfortable or as suitable for less experienced shavers.
The v1 handle was also shorter and narrower, so the razor was smaller and lighter than the v2, but the aggression was the main difference.
I do remember when the Ares v1 was launched (I think only 50 razors) the reviews on forums all said it was really very aggressive.
The zero exposure Athena and Ares v2 are so impressive and successful because of how gentle and smooth they are for the high efficency they offer. Theo said that he and other customers found there was no loss in efficiency from the v1 to the v2, and this design does not seem to benefit from having positive exposure. So, unless you really prefer stronger blade feel for its own sake, the v2 and the Athena are better configurations - and surely will be for most users.
I think a few people will want to get an Ares v1 for the strong blade feel or the challenge, and some for the sake of posterity as it is the original Lambda razor and it is quite rare. But I believe Theo thinks the Athena and Ares v2 are the way forward for him because the design is good for all shavers.
Anyway, here is a screenshot from a reviewer’s video showing the difference in measurements between the v1 and v2 Ares. It’s just a small difference in exposure but the effect was significant with this design.
The Ares v1 had a small amount of positive blade exposure, and the v2 has zero blade exposure (like the Athena which was released in-between the Ares versions). With the particular head design that the Ares and Athena have, it turned out that even this small amount of positive exposure made the Ares v1 a quite aggressive razor - ok for those who are used to high aggression and blade feel, but not as comfortable or as suitable for less experienced shavers.
The v1 handle was also shorter and narrower, so the razor was smaller and lighter than the v2, but the aggression was the main difference.
I do remember when the Ares v1 was launched (I think only 50 razors) the reviews on forums all said it was really very aggressive.
The zero exposure Athena and Ares v2 are so impressive and successful because of how gentle and smooth they are for the high efficency they offer. Theo said that he and other customers found there was no loss in efficiency from the v1 to the v2, and this design does not seem to benefit from having positive exposure. So, unless you really prefer stronger blade feel for its own sake, the v2 and the Athena are better configurations - and surely will be for most users.
I think a few people will want to get an Ares v1 for the strong blade feel or the challenge, and some for the sake of posterity as it is the original Lambda razor and it is quite rare. But I believe Theo thinks the Athena and Ares v2 are the way forward for him because the design is good for all shavers.
Anyway, here is a screenshot from a reviewer’s video showing the difference in measurements between the v1 and v2 Ares. It’s just a small difference in exposure but the effect was significant with this design.
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Per Theo’s website:
“Lambda Ares is a razor that has been first manufactured back in 2019. It was made in only 50 pieces and quickly became a collectable item. Now, Lambda Ares returns to the market with some updates, without changing its original style. It comes with a slightly longer handle which keeps the original analogy of an ancient Greek temple column. Razor head is the same style, but becoming a bit milder without sacrificing its exceptional effectiveness.”
The V1 and V2 are apparently the same in effectiveness but the blade feel or exposure of the V1 was more.
Another Day Another Shave (YouTube) has done reviews of both versions. I don’t speak Greek, but his facial expressions are informative in their own right.
“Lambda Ares is a razor that has been first manufactured back in 2019. It was made in only 50 pieces and quickly became a collectable item. Now, Lambda Ares returns to the market with some updates, without changing its original style. It comes with a slightly longer handle which keeps the original analogy of an ancient Greek temple column. Razor head is the same style, but becoming a bit milder without sacrificing its exceptional effectiveness.”
The V1 and V2 are apparently the same in effectiveness but the blade feel or exposure of the V1 was more.
Another Day Another Shave (YouTube) has done reviews of both versions. I don’t speak Greek, but his facial expressions are informative in their own right.
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Ah, clamping distance and blade angle! that little blade exposure difference sure doesn't seem significant but, I did notice that if I wasn't paying attention, the Ares V2 would give me a good weeper!
I am curious about the V1. I cancelled my V2 order last year because of reviews stating that the V2 was so so similar to the Athena.
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Another Day Another Shave GR is the guy I took my screenshot from (above). He did a video about the Ares v2 and v1 in English language too. Very nice and knowledgeable guy, it seems. I believe he was in regular contact with Theo and I would regard this video as the most authoritative about the Lambda Ares razor.
I expect that the vast majority of the 50 Ares v1s were sold in Greece, as Lambda was a completely new manufacturer and was known only through Greek shaving forums at the time. Word got out just a couple of days before they went on sale and a few international customers on another shaving forum got one too. They all sold out within 48hrs, which was quite incredible for an unknown new razor brand. The next production batch was the first Athenas, and then Theo started making the Athena and Ares v2 in parallel. All in marine bronze then, and somehow he has still stayed close to the original price for the bronze razors, which were a hell of a bargain even on day one.
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Absolutely @Mr. Shavington. If you came across that Etsy page back then it would have been a steal. I remember seeing the Athena for the first time and immediately took to its looks.
Theo is planning to make a small batch of V1 Ares later this year.
Theo is planning to make a small batch of V1 Ares later this year.
Iridian
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The Ares V1 is dangerously interesting for me, which is not dangerous for me, but for my wallet.
Ares is basically the Kurgan in the Lambda family.
The Ares V2 is the Ken to the Barbie (Athena).
These analogies might not be 100% perfect, thinking about it.
Ares is basically the Kurgan in the Lambda family.
The Ares V2 is the Ken to the Barbie (Athena).
These analogies might not be 100% perfect, thinking about it.
Hopefully even sooner
Fingers crossed...but he said in the Ares thread that..Hopefully even sooner
Either way, you and I are both on the waiting list if I understood Theo correctly, so we should be allright!!
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