here piggy piggy!

[gearchow]

My daughter who is almost through Veterinarian school, now refuses to eat pork of any variety. And she is kinda down on milk now too. I find it's best to not ask her any questions about the industry, 'cause it can be real bummer TMI.

And it's not because of the slaughtering or anything like that. It's the factory method. The only way that you can get cheap anything is through efficiently run factories, with low defect rates and low overhead. Think about the Chinese crap you buy (can only) from anyplace now. That is pretty much the stuff we get from the supermarket, it's just USA made (well, thank goodness for that anyways!).

That being said, I have a nice piece of cheap tritip from Costco sitting in the refrigerator that I am going cook later on my charcoal grill sipping a nice oregon made beer(s). I should get that marinating before I marinate myself...

-jim

I used to be a Breatharian, but I couldn't get enough of it...

 

[Grumpy Old Git]

Maybe a good steak seems too much like reading a text book now?

 

[airplanedoc]

I look at it this way, pumping the ground and water full of chemicals so that you can grow coconuts in Michigan is not much better than factory farming.

So I eat what ever suits my fancy with out thinking about where it came from.

 

[Gruder]

That settles it. I think I'll have pork chops tonight.

Best of luck to your daughter in vet school. I'm sure you're very proud of her!

 

[Mr. Clean]

There is a article today on the front page of the Metro section about a local dairy selling raw cows milk @ $8/gal. They interviewed several customers who swear by it. I personally enjoy goat's milk.

 

[jlanger]

There is a article today on the front page of the Metro section about a local dairy selling raw cows milk @ $8/gal. They interviewed several customers who swear by it. I personally enjoy goat's milk.

As someone who spent most of his summers growing up on the family dairy farm, raw milk is nice but there is certainly a reason that pasteurization was invented.

If you want locally sourced milk it's usually available at most higher end grocery stores, and actually most milk that you can get in the store generally comes form local areas, it's difficult and expensive to ship milk long distances, so generally it tends to come locally anyway.

 

[Confilo]

A research scientist once told me the worst food is milk. Everything they give or inject the cow goes into the milk.
Most mammals stop drinking milk once they get past the calf stage

 

[Obsessed]

A research scientist once told me the worst food is milk. Everything they give or inject the cow goes into the milk.
Most mammals stop drinking milk once they get past the calf stage

Dairy products are the one food group for which I try as much as I can to buy organic versions, particularly for my kids, for the reason you stated.

If I am not mistaken, humans are in fact the only the only mammal that drinks milk after weaning. Even more interesting (to me, at least) is that it's the milk of another species. Think about it: If someone offered you a glass of human milk, chances are you'd be revolted, yet many of us will unhesitatingly guzzle down the milk of a cow, goat, or sheep. It's kind of weird when you think about it, although I love dairy foods.

 

[SRock]

That settles it. I think I'll have pork chops tonight.

Best of luck to your daughter in vet school. I'm sure you're very proud of her!

Bacon was my first thought!

 

[Defend Tacoma]

A research scientist once told me the worst food is milk. Everything they give or inject the cow goes into the milk.
Most mammals stop drinking milk once they get past the calf stage

I don't drink milk, as to me it seems unnatural unless you happen to be an infant. I can't get past drinking a bunch of cow hormones, it just doesn't seem healthy. Bacon, on the other hand... Mmmmm, bacon!

-J

 

[gearchow]

... Bacon, on the other hand... Mmmmm, bacon!
-J

My dear wife doesn't let me eat bacon, but Turkey bacon is good to go for her. It's similar in the way that it tastes kind of like real bacon, but you got to cook it just this side of burnt for me to eat it.

The funny thing is, she will cook up half a pound of turkey bacon and think nothing of it, health-wise. I'm not going to disabuse her of that notion, but I'm pretty sure it isn't any healthier then regular bacon.

-jim

 

[DFrancis]

A research scientist once told me the worst food is milk. Everything they give or inject the cow goes into the milk.
Most mammals stop drinking milk once they get past the calf stage

In Canada it's against the law to use hormones or antibiotics on dairy cattle (antibiotics can be used to treat illness but the milk has to be destroyed while the cow is on them). So I have no worries about milk.

Also i've always been impressed with the quality of costco meat, yummy and cheap.

 

[Master-Classter]

It's not the idea of meat that I have a problem with, just most of the current production and even more the slaughtering processes that makes me revolt. I stick to kosher when possible, and I assume that means I'm eating some cleaner beef and chicken, plus avoids pork. If you care and can afford it, I'd suggest going the organic/local route. The places where I think it makes a big difference is with meat and some produce

 

[mretzloff]

Just as a small FYI, organic food really is a thing of technicalities (as is are really all these names). For some food (e.g. seafood) "organic" could mean next to anything, while for other types it simply sets a minimum bar. For example, organic meat must only graze for four months and only 30% of the feed must come from grazing.

 

[SliceOfLife]

There are independently farmed pork products. But expect to pay 3x as much as competing products cost, if not more.


This thread got me thinking about how chickens and pigs are the two most efficient meat producing animals in the world and cows are one of the least. Also, there are some intensely well-thought out and practiced methods to cooking pork and with beef it's just "Apply heat... Nom." Cows are so tasty, we don't need to learn how to cook them, nor do we care about how many starving people we could feed for what it takes to produce a pound of beef.


Mmmm, beef.

 

[ouch]

Just as a small FYI, organic food really is a thing of technicalities (as is are really all these names). For some food (e.g. seafood) "organic" could mean next to anything, while for other types it simply sets a minimum bar. For example, organic meat must only graze for four months and only 30% of the feed must come from grazing.

My favorite is free range chicken. They don't have to roam freely at all, they merely have to have access to the outside world. This can be a small door. More importantly, they can be warehoused for the first few weeks before they are allowed to "roam". By the time that happens, they are already conditioned to the warehouse and won't leave. Many chickens sold as free range have never seen the light of day.

All I know is that if I had to capture, kill, and clean my own food, I'd be eating a lot of vegetables and fish.

 

[gearchow]

All I know is that if I had to capture, kill, and clean my own food, I'd be eating a lot of vegetables and fish.

yeah, just putting a pet cat or dog down makes me sad and kind of weepy, but gutting and scaling a wiggly fish and tossing it into a pan of boiling oil makes me want to do it more!

Same thing with a pot of boiling water and scrambling blue claws.

Probably some sort of moral disconnect, but please don't tell me if you know...

-jim

 

[futurman]

My dear wife doesn't let me eat bacon, but Turkey bacon is good to go for her. It's similar in the way that it tastes kind of like real bacon, but you got to cook it just this side of burnt for me to eat it.

The funny thing is, she will cook up half a pound of turkey bacon and think nothing of it, health-wise. I'm not going to disabuse her of that notion, but I'm pretty sure it isn't any healthier then regular bacon.

-jim

So when is the divorce final? LOL