I am not sure if there are any espresso buffs out there but I am looking for a good starter machine. I know grinder is the most important thing which I have that covered. But after looking around online i just got over whelmed for the most part. My girlfriend has a Breville which makes solid espresso ( she also uses high quality Italian coffee). But most of the online stuff I find , they say Breville is watery garbage. I was also hearing good things about a Rancilio but a friend has it and I never had a good espresso from that machine. I was looking into Gaggia Classic but don't know if the 500 price range may be worth it. Any suggestions on a good starter machine? I only want something consistent and that gives a good froth.