a friend brought me a ten pack of these elios de blades back from italy, loaded one up in a fatip ,got a nice lather in bowl and started to shave with it, the worst and only bad de shave i have had so far, it was like shaving with a broken bottle, after first pass i took the blade out and replaced it with an astra, i think if a carried on it would have meant plastic surgery, anyone any experience of these blades, i thought they were brutal and will not chance them again.