Don’t understand Badger Termonolgy?

[DesertIguana]

First question is what is definition of Two, or Three Band?

Next question do prove = better quality? Or is some of price only reflect name.

Never owned Real Deal Badger, that is reason for questions.

 

[Phoenix997]

My understanding is that if you look at the hairs you can see three or two distinct layers

 

[Phoenix997]

Quality is ranked in terms of Silvertip, best, pure with some variations

 

[Phoenix997]

Silvertip is the best but keep in mind manufacturers have different naming systems and there is no regulation on what they call it.

 

[luvmysuper]

Get a six band high mountain white Alpine water badger lower belly hair brush. They're magical!
Honestly, it's hard to make a specific recommendation. Brush stiffness or floppiness, scritch when you use it, height, base width etc are all very personal choices.
Price does indeed have some indication of value (to a point), bearing in mind that brand names have a generally higher price tag for no other reason than the brand name.
The real benefit of branding is relative comfort by the buyer that the quality is good.

 

[DesertIguana]

Thanks for replies got some info to use at months end Royalty Check Due.

 

[Rudy Vey]

First of all, there is no terminology/grading that is accepted or agreed on world-wide. A lot of continental European makers call a badger brush Pure, Reindachs, Pure Blaireau, but it does mean only that the hair is from a badger and nothing else is mixed with it. This is true for all grades and even the highest grade is often described as such. On the other hand, for UK makers and others, Pure is used for the lowest grade hair, often a one-band, i.e. a hair that does not show any banding. These are often grey or black pure badger.
I attach here a picture of two knots from Shavemac that show a three band knot on the left and a two-0band on the right.
Actually, both have three bands, but the three band the darker band is very narrow, while in the two-band the band is very wide. When set into a handle the second one often will show only the two band, a wide dark bottom and the top is light. The three band shows normally all three band with the middle one being the dark one.
I think the most important fact is not the number of bands, but the hair thickness. The three bands are finer than the two band hairs. So, the three band hair feels normally much softer as the hairs bend easier, and the two band are a bit stiffer. But most is personal preferences, mine is a two-band brush, and I own only a couple of three bands.

A typical two-band brush, using a Shavemac two-band silvertip:

And here a typical two-band silvertip (first a Shavemac and then a A Long knot in one of my handles):

A lot of "name"add-ons, like Manchurian, High Mountain, Two-band White, Super aso. are selling fads. Most badger hair comes from China, and most from the area called Manchuria, which is pretty big and also quite hilly.

 

[DesertIguana]

First of all, there is no terminology/grading that is accepted or agreed on world-wide. A lot of continental European makers call a badger brush Pure, Reindachs, Pure Blaireau, but it does mean only that the hair is from a badger and nothing else is mixed with it. This is true for all grades and even the highest grade is often described as such. On the other hand, for UK makers and others, Pure is used for the lowest grade hair, often a one-band, i.e. a hair that does not show any banding. These are often grey or black pure badger.
I attach here a picture of two knots from Shavemac that show a three band knot on the left and a two-0band on the right.
Actually, both have three bands, but the three band the darker band is very narrow, while in the two-band the band is very wide. When set into a handle the second one often will show only the two band, a wide dark bottom and the top is light. The three band shows normally all three band with the middle one being the dark one.
I think the most important fact is not the number of bands, but the hair thickness. The three bands are finer than the two band hairs. So, the three band hair feels normally much softer as the hairs bend easier, and the two band are a bit stiffer. But most is personal preferences, mine is a two-band brush, and I own only a couple of three bands.
View attachment 1871792

A typical two-band brush, using a Shavemac two-band silvertip:
View attachment 1871793


And here a typical two-band silvertip (first a Shavemac and then a A Long knot in one of my handles):
View attachment 1871794

View attachment 1871795

A lot of "name"add-ons, like Manchurian, High Mountain, Two-band White, Super aso. are selling fads. Most badger hair comes from China, and most from the area called Manchuria, which is pretty big and also quite hilly.

Thanks,

Rudy.

 

[brucered]

First of all, there is no terminology/grading that is accepted or agreed on world-wide....

During the 2015 annual B&B awards (or thereabouts), there was some talk of standardizing some terms and measurements. It never got off the ground for one reason or another.

Thread 'Shaving Brush Standardization Guidelines' Shaving Brush Standardization Guidelines - https://www.badgerandblade.com/forum/threads/shaving-brush-standardization-guidelines.444221/

The original article with the terms and definitions has long been removed.

 

[Big Jim]

First of all, there is no terminology/grading that is accepted or agreed on world-wide. A lot of continental European makers call a badger brush Pure, Reindachs, Pure Blaireau, but it does mean only that the hair is from a badger and nothing else is mixed with it. This is true for all grades and even the highest grade is often described as such. On the other hand, for UK makers and others, Pure is used for the lowest grade hair, often a one-band, i.e. a hair that does not show any banding. These are often grey or black pure badger.
I attach here a picture of two knots from Shavemac that show a three band knot on the left and a two-0band on the right.
Actually, both have three bands, but the three band the darker band is very narrow, while in the two-band the band is very wide. When set into a handle the second one often will show only the two band, a wide dark bottom and the top is light. The three band shows normally all three band with the middle one being the dark one.
I think the most important fact is not the number of bands, but the hair thickness. The three bands are finer than the two band hairs. So, the three band hair feels normally much softer as the hairs bend easier, and the two band are a bit stiffer. But most is personal preferences, mine is a two-band brush, and I own only a couple of three bands.
View attachment 1871792

A typical two-band brush, using a Shavemac two-band silvertip:
View attachment 1871793


And here a typical two-band silvertip (first a Shavemac and then a A Long knot in one of my handles):
View attachment 1871794

View attachment 1871795

A lot of "name"add-ons, like Manchurian, High Mountain, Two-band White, Super aso. are selling fads. Most badger hair comes from China, and most from the area called Manchuria, which is pretty big and also quite hilly.

Excellent explanation from one who knows. All we need now is for the Paladin Chief to jump in with an explanation of Finest Badger.