Densest Horse Hair Brush

[mwhitcraft]

I recently purchased a Vie-Long Peleón[FONT=Verdana, Tahoma, Helvetica, sans-serif] Horse Hair brush. I had never tried a horse hair brush and was interested in seeing what they were all about. The result is that I love the hair, but am disappointed in how sparse the knot is. I am a big fan of dense knots.

I am looking to replace this brush with another denser one. What is the densest horse hair brush on the market? Which is your favorite? What suggestions would you have etc.?

Thank you in advance for all the information I'm sure you all will provide.[/FONT]

 

[Paxaddict]

I recently purchased a Vie-Long Peleón Horse Hair brush. I had never tried a horse hair brush and was interested in seeing what they were all about. The result is that I love the hair, but am disappointed in how sparse the knot is. I am a big fan of dense knots.

I am looking to replace this brush with another denser one. What is the densest horse hair brush on the market? Which is your favorite? What suggestions would you have etc.?

Thank you in advance for all the information I'm sure you all will provide.

I've got a Vie-Long horsehair as well, and have found mine to be pretty dense. Could you post a picture of yours? I'd like to see if it's a discrepancy between knots, models, or perspective. When I get home, I'll post a picture of what I've got. You might just have ended up with a sparse knot.

 

[mwhitcraft]

I've got a Vie-Long horsehair as well, and have found mine to be pretty dense. Could you post a picture of yours? I'd like to see if it's a discrepancy between knots, models, or perspective. When I get home, I'll post a picture of what I've got. You might just have ended up with a sparse knot.

This is a picture of the brush I have:
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-16445739206724_2247_38686220

 

[Paxaddict]

This is a picture of the brush I have:
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-16445739206724_2247_38686220

And would you say that accurately represents how dense the hair on your brush is?

 

[mwhitcraft]

Yes, it's not dense at all, just like in the picture.

 

[mftoms59]

The 12705 (your model) has a moderate knot, but at the factory set loft, ~57mm, it will not have a firm backbone bordering on floppy. My suggestion for another V-L is to have the loft no greater than 50mm, personally I would have it set to ~46-47mm, especially if your using it with soaps. This will firm up the backbone and lessen the splay when you apply your lather, additionally I would stick with the 24mm knot. If you want another Natural Brown 35/65 (Mane/Tail) purchase the 13066 or the 13064M, or the Natural White 50/50, 13061B or 13071B.

The Mane hair will provide softness and Tail hair gives it the backbone, any customized loft will be done at no additional charge when purchased through Gifts & Care; http://www.giftsandcare.com/en/88-horse-shaving-brushes use code SB10 for a 10% discount.

 

[mwhitcraft]

The 12705 (your model) has a moderate knot, but at the factory set loft, ~57mm, it will not have a firm backbone bordering on floppy. My suggestion for another V-L is to have the loft no greater than 50mm, personally I would have it set to ~46-47mm, especially if your using it with soaps. This will firm up the backbone and lessen the splay when you apply your lather, additionally I would stick with the 24mm knot. If you want another Natural Brown 35/65 (Mane/Tail) purchase the 13066 or the 13064M, or the Natural White 50/50, 13061B or 13071B.

The Mane hair will provide softness and Tail hair gives it the backbone, any customized loft will be done at no additional charge when purchased through Gifts & Care; http://www.giftsandcare.com/en/88-horse-shaving-brushes use code SB10 for a 10% discount.

This is great information. Thank you. Which of the above would have the densest knot? The one I now have is so sparse that it forms a big hole in the middle when it wet.

 

[malocchio]

That "big hole" is common to horse hair knots,and it is from too much pressure while lathering.The way to beat the problem is to lather in a bowl using side-to-side movements instead of RPMS.Horsehair is different in structure than badger hair,you can't get a super dense knot like a chubby or duke.All the Vie-Long horsehair brushes are good,but if you want maximum hair in the knot,get one of the more expensive 23 or 24mm knots,the handle is strictly what you like to look at and hold on to.

 

[mftoms59]

malocchio is correct, too much pressure will cause your "gap" in the knot, and a very dense Horse isn't produced. The shorter lofts I suggested will allow you to use circular motions, and eliminate the "gap" as long as you don't use excessive pressure. Any of the brushes I suggested would be just fine for a firmer knot with some scrub with a loft less than 50mm, as you've already experienced they will have some scritch & prickliness which will relax after 10-15 lathers. You can lessen the scritch with less pressure during the application of lather, I'd also suggest initially doing ~3-5 bowl lathers if you find the scritch/prickliness a bit too much.

 

[Oscroft]

I've found that my (standard loft) horsehair brushes do show a central hole and appear floppy when very wet - due to the weight of the excess water, I'm sure. But in use when loaded with lather, there's no hole.

 

[mwhitcraft]

This is great information. Thanks a lot guys.

 

[lirijavdekjee]

I recently purchased the Vie Long 13061, and I think it's pretty dense considering it's made of horse hair.

 

[Doryferon]

I also had a problem with a Vie-Long shaving brush
http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php/327359-My-Vie-Long-14831M-Horse-hair

There was NO pressure no matter if it was face or bowl lathering
When my replace knot will be in my hands i will post a second opinion but as i see i am not the only one who has a "problem" with a Horse knot.