Is anybody aware of counterfeit Penhaligon's cologne? I found some people claiming to be selling new Penhaligon's cologne, but without the trademark bow made of ribbon on the bottle cap for a significant amount cheaper than what I usually see it selling. Is the lack of a bow a sign of a fake, if fakes even exist?
Counterfeit Penhaligons?
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Never heard of fake Pens, but it's odd.
It may be that Pens dumped some old stock with the removal of bows as a way of marking the product?
Sounds odd. Pay the $110 or $80 or you'll always question what you bought.
It may be that Pens dumped some old stock with the removal of bows as a way of marking the product?
Sounds odd. Pay the $110 or $80 or you'll always question what you bought.
Maybe a tester?
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Hmm...I wondered about a tester as well, but the sellers claim to have multiple in stock and already sold multiple ones. I suppose I could understand a couple of testers here and there showing up, but not many. Still, I suppose that's a viable explanation.
I also wondered about it being old stock or something like that and they were just marketed differently a few years ago, but everything I could tell suggests that the ribbon bows have been a Pen's trademark for quite sometime.
Maybe I'll e-mail the folks at Pen's to see if they know of anything. Thanks guys. I appreciate your input and suggestions.
I also wondered about it being old stock or something like that and they were just marketed differently a few years ago, but everything I could tell suggests that the ribbon bows have been a Pen's trademark for quite sometime.
Maybe I'll e-mail the folks at Pen's to see if they know of anything. Thanks guys. I appreciate your input and suggestions.
Are you able to post a photo or a link? A trained eye (not me) might be able to spot other inconsistencies or provide additional information.
I agree. The green bow would probably be one of the easier parts of the package to counterfeit -- I can't imagine why they would leave that out if they were really trying to pass counterfeit off as the real deal. Does it have "Penhaligon's London" in raised letters on the back of the bottle? Is the metal ball nozzle included (for AS)? Does it come in the unique Penhaligon's box?
Some pics or a link might be helpful.
Did one of these people open up their coat and have bottles attached to the inside lining? If so, I would be suspicious.
Pssst. Hey buddy. Want to buy some Penhaligon's?
Pssst. Hey buddy. Want to buy some Penhaligon's?
I could see them being testers I suppose, but if they have a lot of them it gets sort of puzzling.
The systematic removal of ribbons from a bunch of bottles seems odd, if indeed they are all ribbon less. Why would anyone go to the trouble to remove them from a bunch of bottles?
That's why I wonder if it's some way that Pens quietly moves out old stock.
Are these people a business, or some sort of eBay kind of connection?
The systematic removal of ribbons from a bunch of bottles seems odd, if indeed they are all ribbon less. Why would anyone go to the trouble to remove them from a bunch of bottles?
That's why I wonder if it's some way that Pens quietly moves out old stock.
Are these people a business, or some sort of eBay kind of connection?
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Here's a pic of the seller transacting business.
I seem to recall reading that Pen's has an outlet store where they sell things more cheaply. Perhaps that's the source?
The ribbons all came off as a couple of cases fell off the back of truck on a bumpy road.
It happens.
If the OP refers to a couple of dbay vendors from the UK - I've purchased Pen's from two different vendors - no ribbons, no boxes: the stuff is authentic, as far as my highly trained sniffer can discern. I believe these are sourced from an outlet in the UK - and are likely testers.
That's highly probable. The older bottles circa 80's & 90's were in different bottles with no ribbons.
I have bottles of Endymion and Castile from only a few years ago that had a thin leather cord wrapped around the bottleneck (where the ribbon goes) and the bottles were modernized a bit, but still the same shape.
As far as I know, they've since switched BACK to the ribbon-style for all the bottles now.
And also, I remember just a few weeks ago coming across some Pen's bottles that were testers and did not have the ribbon - so I'm going to assume that's the case with yours.
I really doubt anyone is out there making Penhaligons fakes. The target market is that of upper-class businessmen, and people who fake things usually seem to cater to a less tasteful and saavy crowd. Not to mention distribution for this brand seems pretty tight. (you don't find this at Perfumania or bargain websites) It's not popular enough to justify being forged.
As far as I know, they've since switched BACK to the ribbon-style for all the bottles now.
And also, I remember just a few weeks ago coming across some Pen's bottles that were testers and did not have the ribbon - so I'm going to assume that's the case with yours.
I really doubt anyone is out there making Penhaligons fakes. The target market is that of upper-class businessmen, and people who fake things usually seem to cater to a less tasteful and saavy crowd. Not to mention distribution for this brand seems pretty tight. (you don't find this at Perfumania or bargain websites) It's not popular enough to justify being forged.
Are you finding these on line?
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Nid Hog and others who've asked - I've noticed them on eBay. And Jon, yes, they are from folks in the UK. At this point, I'm inclined to think they are legit. I figured there wouldn't be much of a market for fakes and the ribbon would be incredibly easy to duplicate that it would be foolish to not include such a trademark piece of the package.
as I say, I've had good luck with two transactions from these folks. If you take a look at their sites, they are selling a number of items from different manufacturers, not just Pen's.
I think they're cool.
One tip of advice, I learned from my sister (she's a Chemist engeneer, and sometimes works closely with Parfumes).
If you have access to the bottle, put it against a light. IF you see particules of dirt floating around (even if small) then you're about 80 to 85% sure is counterfeit.
A genuine parfume, cologne or au de taoilete will be clean of impurities. And those get its way to the bottle, due to refill mostly done with a syringe.
I have tried this, and it works. Although common sense has to be used too.
I hope this helps someone.
If you have access to the bottle, put it against a light. IF you see particules of dirt floating around (even if small) then you're about 80 to 85% sure is counterfeit.
A genuine parfume, cologne or au de taoilete will be clean of impurities. And those get its way to the bottle, due to refill mostly done with a syringe.
I have tried this, and it works. Although common sense has to be used too.
I hope this helps someone.
My Castile has the older orange string wrap on the cap bought in the Fred Segal sale 1/2 price. I bought a full 100 ml of Endymion from a UK vendor for about $50 a few months ago, no box and no ribbon on the cap. I just wrapped a length of dark blue ribbon round the cap and tied it off with a short plaited tail. The juice is authentic, I have no doubt of that.
Hi lads. As I have bought Penhaligon´s on e-bay too, I´ve come to the conclusion that most sellers on there buys from an outlet village where Penhaligon´s has a shop selling "leftover stock". Hence the lack of proper packaging etc.
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