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Disappointed with Blackland Batch 001 Razor: Quality Issues and Poor Customer Support

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"This incident has generated a lot of discussion, and I realize it may unfold in ways I didn't expect. Since the exchange process could take a week or more, and the overall impact is hard to predict, I am tired of the uncertainty. So, I reached out to Shane again to ask about getting a refund for the razor, even though Batch 001 items aren't usually refundable. Shane agreed, and I'm willing to return the razor.

Looking back, I think the main issue was unfortunate timing. After I got the razor, I found a defect and contacted the support team. Unfortunately, the two weeks I spent trying to communicate with them overlapped with their vacation period. Given Blackland's strong reputation and my high expectations for this razor, I was disappointed that the defect couldn't be resolved due to the lack of timely responses. The long delay was frustrating, which led me to share my experience on the forum.

I want to make it clear that I'm not asking for 24/7 support or suggesting the team shouldn't take vacations. Based on the discussions in this thread, I wanted to share some ideas that might help prevent similar misunderstandings in the future:

Manage Customer Expectations: If the support team is on vacation or dealing with a high volume of orders, Blackland could update the expected response times on their website or through automatic email replies. This would help customers adjust their expectations about when they'll get a reply, instead of implying inaction, which may cause customer anxiety.
Enhance Quality Control: For special, one-off products that lack extensive production experience, stricter quality checks are important. If certain features, like unavoidable patina, they should be clearly mentioned on the product pages.

Without a doubt, Blackland is still a top-tier brand in today's market. After the support team returned from vacation, Blackland responded quickly, showing their professional after-sales service. Shane was polite and courageous in acknowledging shortcomings in the sales process, which is admirable in a brand founder. A successful brand grows through both praise and constructive criticism.

Even though this experience wasn't perfect, the imperfections shouldn't be blamed on any one party. Blackland's after-sales service has renewed my confidence in buying their products in the future. I also noticed that last year, Blackland acquired Above The Tie (ATT), which is now part of the Blackland family. I'm considering buying a newly released ATT razor."




Hi gentlemen,

I wanted to share my recent experience purchasing the Blackland Batch 001 (Blackbird Polish C954 version) razor in hopes that it helps others make informed decisions before buying.

About a month ago, I was really excited when I saw Blackland announce the release of their Batch 001 on YouTube. The new product line, mirror polish, and the promise of C954 material convinced me to snag one immediately.

Fast forward two weeks, and when the razor arrived on October 3rd, I was pretty disappointed. The handle, top cap, and base plate all had noticeable black marks. I reached out to Blackland’s support team the same day, hoping for a solution.Initially, they suggested using a polishing cloth to remove the marks. I tried this multiple times but only managed to lighten the marks a bit. Despite my best efforts, the black marks on the handle and top cap just wouldn’t come off.

On October 5th, they requested photos detailing the defects. After I sent them, the support team went silent. In the following days, I kept following up, sending several emails by October 10th, but all they offered was the same polishing cloth solution, which was ineffective. Feeling frustrated, I asked if I could get a refund but received no response for days. Not wanting to give up, I tried contacting them again from a different email account on October 15th. Ironically, they replied immediately, stating that refunds weren’t possible and only exchanges were available. I agreed to the exchange that same day, but as of today, I still haven’t heard back from them.

Their automatic replies mentioned a one-day response time, but honestly, I wasn’t expecting a quick reply—just effective communication. Instead, when I clearly expressed my desire for an exchange or refund, they chose to ignore my messages. 

From my perspective, it seems like Blackland puts a lot more effort into their advertising and video presentations than into actual quality control. Sending out products with such obvious defects and then expecting customers to handle the quality issues themselves is unacceptable. When customers face problems, Blackland should take responsibility instead of burying their heads in the sand.

I got into this hobby about five months ago and was lucky enough to get some discontinued razors on the aftermarket. My intention isn’t to tarnish Blackland’s reputation but rather to share my experience so others are aware. As customers, we deserve brands that stand by their products with strict quality checks and reliable customer support—not ones that rely solely on flashy ads and websites to attract buyers.

Here are the photos of the defects and screenshots of my conversations with Blackland’s customer service:
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I am sorry to hear of your experience. Your link of photos and conversation doesn’t work. While I am not questioning your experience, Blackland’s reputation of offering quality products and excellent customer service is well known. I hope they make right by you.
 
I am sorry to hear of your experience. Your link of photos and conversation doesn’t work. While I am not questioning your experience, Blackland’s reputation of offering quality products and excellent customer service is well known. I hope they make right by you.
I updated the photos and chat history directly.
 
Sorry to hear about your bad experience. This should not be the case, especially with such an expensive razor. You can try tagging Blackland in your post. They have a B&B account
 
It’s true that our customer service has been less responsive over the last week and a half. I and another employee were on vacation so we haven’t been able to keep up our normal quick response. Our customer service should never falter, but it’s hard having a small business and also trying to take a trip.

The dark spots in the top cap photo are patina beginning to develop which is normal and unavoidable in bronze. Still, we offered to replace the razor to make sure the customer is happy. I’m back from traveling and will be following up to continue resolving this. We don’t leave customers in a lurch.
 
It looks too me like dried polishing compound. It can be difficult to remove, but it will come off with enough rubbing. If you have a dremel, you could try low speed with a clean felt disc. You might also try rubbing with some rubbing alcohol.

I agree that you shouldn't have to do this, but it might be less hassle than sending it back, and you'll acquire a skill in the process.
 
It’s true that our customer service has been less responsive over the last week and a half. I and another employee were on vacation so we haven’t been able to keep up our normal quick response. Our customer service should never falter, but it’s hard having a small business and also trying to take a trip.

The dark spots in the top cap photo are patina beginning to develop which is normal and unavoidable in bronze. Still, we offered to replace the razor to make sure the customer is happy. I’m back from traveling and will be following up to continue resolving this. We don’t leave customers in a lurch.
Shane, is either Flitz or Brasso acceptable for cleaning these or are they too abrasive?
 
It looks too me like dried polishing compound. It can be difficult to remove, but it will come off with enough rubbing. If you have a dremel, you could try low speed with a clean felt disc. You might also try rubbing with some rubbing alcohol.

I agree that you shouldn't have to do this, but it might be less hassle than sending it back, and you'll acquire a skill in the process.

Yes, the handle appears to have some compound. No dremel or tools required. Only a soft cloth. The reason we asked the customer to try this is to make sure it’s compound and not patina because it can be hard to tell the difference. And while compound should never be left, it happens occasionally especially on brass and bronze because we can’t use our normal cleaning procedure. It’s easy to remove and pops right off so generally it makes more sense to try that quickly instead of jumping to a replacement. But if a customer doesn’t want to, we understand and replace the razor - which was offered to the customer and is likely what will happen.
 
After reading the title, I am glad to see that the quality escape is very minor, something that shouldn't have left the factory as it was, but also something that on my own razor, I would just accept or correct myself without worrying about it or contacting Blackbird, and definitely not something I would do an exchange over.

OP might be happier with a stainless razor, which is the most corrosion resistant.

The delay in service is frustrating, but also understandable. I hope you had a good trip Shane.
 
If it is polishing compound, then a bit of lighter fluid, WD-40, or paint thinner on a Q-tip should take care of it rather easily.


I’ve done this on a bunch of different metals, but never bronze. Try it somewhere it won’t show first and do at your own risk.
 
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Well I am late to this discussion but looking at phots if I got Razor in question I would at minimum use Soft Q-Tip to try and see if defect was real or dab of polishing compound as Shane said.

If my test indicated scratch, tool mark, or defect. Well then I would be not happy.🤯

Shave has replied twice. Guy who posted this originally has gone silent.

Only saying in life over dispute three side of most stories.

Party A’s

Party B’s

Last Truth

Judges in small claims court have thought jobs.
 
It’s easy to remove and pops right off so generally it makes more sense to try that quickly instead of jumping to a replacement. But if a customer doesn’t want to, we understand and replace the razor - which was offered to the customer and is likely what will happen.
Now this is impressive, next-level customer service. This is not only how you retain current customers but also attract new ones
 
I want to be clear that I don’t think OP is wrong. He’s right to be frustrated by the slow customer service he’s received lately. And I think his concerns about the product are understandable. I dropped the ball on communication and we need to better plan for customer service when I’m away since we’re short staffed. If we had been quicker to resolve this I don’t think he would have been frustrated. I’m sorry, OP. Will be emailing you tomorrow and fixing this.
 
I want to be clear that I don’t think OP is wrong. He’s right to be frustrated by the slow customer service he’s received lately. And I think his concerns about the product are understandable. I dropped the ball on communication and we need to better plan for customer service when I’m away since we’re short staffed. If we had been quicker to resolve this I don’t think he would have been frustrated. I’m sorry, OP. Will be emailing you tomorrow and fixing this.

Well most business are struggling to attract & retain GOOD Staff members, we are in unique time in history. Seem few people want to work. Almost every Busieness has job openings, but few qualified candidate looking to go to work.

Know where I live tradition jobs people use to line up for like Police & Firefighter position have few applicants.
 
I want to be clear that I don’t think OP is wrong. He’s right to be frustrated by the slow customer service he’s received lately. And I think his concerns about the product are understandable. I dropped the ball on communication and we need to better plan for customer service when I’m away since we’re short staffed. If we had been quicker to resolve this I don’t think he would have been frustrated. I’m sorry, OP. Will be emailing you tomorrow and fixing this.
I always appreciate when someone understands the difference between reasons and excuses.
 
It’s true that our customer service has been less responsive over the last week and a half. I and another employee were on vacation so we haven’t been able to keep up our normal quick response. Our customer service should never falter, but it’s hard having a small business and also trying to take a trip.

The dark spots in the top cap photo are patina beginning to develop which is normal and unavoidable in bronze. Still, we offered to replace the razor to make sure the customer is happy. I’m back from traveling and will be following up to continue resolving this. We don’t leave customers in a lurch.
This razor is brand new. I understand that brass can corrode and develop a patina, but that requires specific conditions and a considerable amount of time. Since the product was released only a month ago, there hasn’t been enough time for a patina to form. Additionally, if batch 001 is indeed made from C954 material as described, it should be the most corrosion-resistant bronze alloy available and shouldn’t exhibit these kinds of flaws.

Additionally, I want to clarify that the response times over the past two weeks have been very slow—not one and a half weeks as previously mentioned.
 
Well I am late to this discussion but looking at phots if I got Razor in question I would at minimum use Soft Q-Tip to try and see if defect was real or dab of polishing compound as Shane said.

If my test indicated scratch, tool mark, or defect. Well then I would be not happy.🤯

Shave has replied twice. Guy who posted this originally has gone silent.

Only saying in life over dispute three side of most stories.

Party A’s

Party B’s

Last Truth

Judges in small claims court have thought jobs.
I’m located on the West Coast, and I believe my responses to posts are much quicker than Blackland’s replies to emails. Moreover, if Blackland has the time to debate here, why not respond to my emails first and resolve the issues? I will try my best to reply and update the the status.
 
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