How tragically true that last statement is. I think a forum all to itself focused on how men dress would be heavily subscribed.True. Look at old photos of men who used straights and basic DEs and SEs (e.g., 1880s-1940s). They look like us, only they dressed like adults.
It's revolting to see the sloppiness and vulgarity of how many men (and women) dress these days.
Sad to say, America is the worst (in my experience). Go to almost any European country and you see people dressing (mostly) like adults especially going out for dinner, at work, at key events.
Off topic of course, but hits a nerve with me. Hope I didn't offend anyone - just one guy's view.