😬 Brace rule

[Ad Astra]

Just saw this. Something not good on the horizon for the AR guys.

ATF Final Rule: Stabilizer Brace Owners Have 120 Days to Register Them

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) released its final rule on stabilizer braces Friday, noting that individuals in possession of said braces have 120 days to register them once the final rule appears in the Federal Register.

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ATF releases new rule on pistol stabilizing braces

When the National Shooting Sports Foundation’s Larry Keane joined me on Cam & Co last week, he said he anticipated the ATF’s final rule on pistol-stabilizing braces would be released r...

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[ctr]

Another unconstitutional "ruling" that will get overturned in judicial review. Court has already ruled on this once.

 

[Whisky]

GOA has already said they're going to fight it in court. I'm trying to figure out what the 120 days to file tax free means if it's upheld. I wonder if that means there will be new class tax stamp or that we'll all have to register them as SBR's? Not that I have any AR pistols or braces. I lost them all in that tragic boating accident.

Edit: looks like they’d have to be registered as SBR’s.

 

[Kentos]

I don’t know I want to be friends with all you felons now .

 

[OkieStubble]

I saw this coming way down tha street.

 

[Kentos]

What still continues to boggle my mind is all these laws only impact the law abiding citizen. Once a crazy guy decides to shoot up a place the last thing on his mind is worrying about is getting caught with extended mags, bump stocks or braces. With that kind of mentality it’s obvious a total firearm ban is the end game they are shooting for.

I know I’m preaching to the choir, but man, it’s really infuriating.

 

[oc_in_fw]

I saw this coming way down tha street.

Everyone should have. Manufacturers thought they were being cute. I am not an ergonomic engineer, but if I truly wanted to design a brace that was actually a brace it wouldn’t look like a buttstock (which most really are, no matter what words are used).

 

[Whisky]

Maybe we can all register them as SBRs for free and then take the braces to local buy back programs and make money off of this whole thing. I mean, the braces are obviously dangerous, right? I’m sure someone will offer money to buy them back. Not that I have any, boating accident and all.

 

[OkieStubble]

What still continues to boggle my mind is all these laws only impact the law abiding citizen. Once a crazy guy decides to shoot up a place the last thing on his mind is worrying about is getting caught with extended mags, bump stocks or braces. With that kind of mentality it’s obvious a total firearm ban is the end game they are shooting for.

I know I’m preaching to the choir, but man, it’s really infuriating.

 

[Multum in parvo]

I don’t want to push any pain buttons but no SBR regulations in my neck of the woods

 

[Kentos]

So is it like a SBR upper that is a harmless paperweight until it’s installed?

I have half contemplated buying an upper and keeping it just for “emergencies” when getting busted with it installed on a lower is the least of my worries.

 

[OkieStubble]

 

[nortac]

@OkieStubble, Yours?

 

[nortac]

@Kentos, IIRC, just having the components to be able to assemble a full auto weapon without a tax stamp is an NFA violation, I would think any NFA scenario would be the same, but I could be wrong?

My thought is that if you have to pay the tax stamp to have a pistol brace, you might as well have a real stock.

I hate to further register anything under the current administration. I'm sure there will be further challenges to this unconstitutional action. I think I'll wait this one out for a while.

 

[OkieStubble]

@OkieStubble, Yours?

Yep.

 

[OkieStubble]

@Kentos, IIRC, just having the components to be able to assemble a full auto weapon without a tax stamp is an NFA violation, I would think any NFA scenario would be the same, but I could be wrong?

My thought is that if you have to pay the tax stamp to have a pistol brace, you might as well have a real stock.

I hate to further register anything under the current administration. I'm sure there will be further challenges to this unconstitutional action. I think I'll wait this one out for a while.

Good post. But there will be plenty of people who always panic too quickly and will run to unload their AR pistols.

Get ‘em while their cheap!

One man’s fear, is another man’s fortune.

 

[Whisky]

Honestly, with the limitations placed on AR pistols as far as accessories go if they allow me to register mine as an SBR for free and with expedited paperwork I might take them up on it. I’ve got an extra brace that’s not currently on a lower. I wonder if id have to register the brace or attach it to a lower.

 

[OkieStubble]

Honestly, with the limitations placed on AR pistols as far as accessories go if they allow me to register mine as an SBR for free and with expedited paperwork I might take them up on it. I’ve got an extra brace that’s not currently on a lower. I wonder if id have to register the brace or attach it to a lower.

Makes sense to me. Isn’t ATF rule can’t be under 26” for SBR and can’t be over 26” for pistol?

 

[nortac]

@OkieStubble What barrel length? Direct impingement? If I end up eventually SBR'ing my BO build lower, I probably will build a 5.56/.223 upper to go with it and perhaps a Superlative Arms piston drive.

 

[Whisky]

Makes sense to me. Isn’t ATF rule can’t be under 26” for SBR and can’t be over 26” for pistol?

SBR is barrel under 16inches and overall length under 26inches. The pistol definition always baffles me. I read it as you can have a pistol with a 4ft barrel and it would still be a pistol until you put a forward grip on it then it becomes a rifle?