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1st successful honing... sort of...

I picked up a Sta-Sharp straight distributed by Sears for $15 at a flea market, and for the first time I have been able to hone a razor from scratch to something resembling shaving sharp. It was in pretty damn nice shape physically, nice and shiny with only a couple small patches of corrosion nowhere near the edge. I had to hone out a pretty significant chip (about the size of the bevel, and a millimeter long). After an eternity of circular honing, I finally got it out and tried honing it on a norton 1k (probably 40-50 strokes), and the 4k/8k (30 or 40 on the 4k, 20 or so on the 8k). Did a few strokes on a Chinese 12k, but it seemed to get duller so I touched it up on the 8k and stropped with the CrOx on the back of a Filly strop. I tried the various test for sharpness but didn't know much about how to judge them, so I used improvement of the ease of cutting arm hair at various leves above the skin- when improvement stopped and the blade seemed pretty uniform, I moved up to the next grit.

Long story short, it shaves!! :thumbup: Certainly not as comfortably as the various blades I have sent out to pros, but with my usual 3 pass pattern (WTG, 2 ATG) the results were similar in smoothness with only a slight dropoff on the difficult parts of my face, although there was some slight irritation. It shaved pretty well, but it was noticably harder to shave up on my neck (nearly ATG).

My big question is, does this basically sound like what I should be achieving with the 8k side of the Norton, or should I expect more? If this is maxed out, what next? Work with the Chinese 12k (all stones are lapped)? Buy some pasted strops? I can use this blade, but from a comfort standpoint I would much rather use my professionally honed blades. I'm not looking to go into business as a honer or anything, but I would like to eventually come close to their results so I can be self sufficient with my blades.

Overall I was pretty pleased, considering I have never come close to this level of sharpness before- granted, I have generally been practicing on junk shop and ebay razors, but it seemed like a good first step in the right direction. Now I am looking to repeat it on other razors and then hopefully take the 'next step,' whatever that is. Thanks in advance for any help.
 
It helps that you've got a really outstanding blade, one that is right up there with a Wonderedge in terms of shaving quality.

As for whether you've maxed out the capabilities of the N8k? Without shaving with your razor it's hard to say. The 8k norton is a surprisingly capable hone that rewards a lot of experience. I used a N4/8k hone exclusively for about a year and was still improving with it when I sold it (got tired of the extended drying times, not of the edges I was getting with it).

A chrome oxide paddle will improve your edges though, no matter how good you get with the norton it's still only about 8k, so IMO it's worth going ahead and picking one up.
 
Pictures, or it didn't happen! :biggrin1:

Congratulations! You're on your way! I've found that using better quality razors helps with getting better results, and once you get one razor of any quality to a good level, the challenge is to do better on the next one. :thumbup:

Keep us informed of your progress!
 
I'm working on pics- my wife has the digital camera at work, and I've got to remind her to bring it home.

I wondered about the razor quality- I've been working hard on another razor, labeled 'made in Germany.' No matter what I do, it seems like the blade just doesn't want to sharpen up- the Sears blade happened almost without serious effort. Under a 10x loupe, the mongrel blade looks like it's having trouble even holding a consistant bevel without small bits of the very edge looking ever so slightly wavy under magnification.
 
Until I get a mirror finish on the bevel on using an 8K Norton, I cannot achieve the level of sharpness that want in a straight razor. It sound like you are on the cusp of getting the edge you want. I took me a while to get a good shaving edge. Are you seeing an mirror (and I mean mirror) finish on the bevel?
 
Until I get a mirror finish on the bevel on using an 8K Norton, I cannot achieve the level of sharpness that want in a straight razor. It sound like you are on the cusp of getting the edge you want. I took me a while to get a good shaving edge. Are you seeing an mirror (and I mean mirror) finish on the bevel?

Now that I take a look- nope- not even close. I ground out the chip with a diamond stone- it seems that I really need to go back to the 4k and polish out those grind marks. Good tip- thanks.
 
After heading back to lower grit stones, I took it back all the way up to the Chinese 12k stone, and it shaved much better! I still need to go back to the hones to catch the very tip and heel of the blade, but shaving up on the neck this morning was much easier as long as I stuck to the middle 3/4 of the blade. Still not quite up to the standards set by the various pro's work on other razors of mine, but I ordered a CrOx paddle and hopefully that will help take it even further.

I will say I was amazed how a good piece of steel hones right up! I tried honing a few other no-name junk razors I have here and gave up almost immediately after it became apparent that the edges were just falling apart :cursing:, even at the bevel setting stage. Better honers than I could undoubtably obtain a great edge, but I'll shelve these until... MUCH... later. Get the first one right first. It seems there is no substitute for quality.
 
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Long overdue, but here it is. Sorry for the delay. I hope this is OK, I am not nearly as adept at producing razor porn as others here. :biggrin1:

With the exception of the dark spot on the etching and another spot under the XX pattern to the left of 'Sta-Sharp,' it is nearly perfect- any hazing is left over from the last shave, and is not corrosion Opposite the Sta sharp stamp, the other side reads 'distributed by Sears...etc etc".
 
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