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You might wanna read the ingredients on that WD silicone one more time for good measure…


Used it for decades on some very expensive razors, razors with horn scales Ivory, and Tortoiseshell, never a days problem.



WD-40 Specialist® Silicone Lubricant safely lubricates, resists water, and protects metal and non-metal surfaces such as rubber, plastic, and vinyl. Once dried, this formula leaves a clear, non-staining film that doesn't stick or make a mess, so it won't attract dirt. This silicone lubricant spray is great for use on cables, pulleys, guide rails, valves, linkages, hinges, locks, and more. Effective in-use temperatures ranging from -100° F to 500° F.

 
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Used it for decades on some very expensive razors, razors with horn scales Ivory, and Tortoiseshell, never a days problem.



WD-40 Specialist® Silicone Lubricant safely lubricates, resists water, and protects metal and non-metal surfaces such as rubber, plastic, and vinyl. Once dried, this formula leaves a clear, non-staining film that doesn't stick or make a mess, so it won't attract dirt. This silicone lubricant spray is great for use on cables, pulleys, guide rails, valves, linkages, hinges, locks, and more. Effective in-use temperatures ranging from -100° F to 500° F.

I understand that. I’m not saying it isn’t a great product for everything from scales to blades. Might very well be superb.
What I was trying to say is that it contains isoparrafin which is a petroleum derived product
 
I understand that. I’m not saying it isn’t a great product for everything from scales to blades. Might very well be superb.
What I was trying to say is that it contains isoparrafin which is a petroleum derived product

I'm trying to image a lubricant that does is not a petroleum derived product other then vegetable oil or lard? Mineral oil is a distillate of petroleum, wax, silicon & synthetic oils are all petroleum products. I use a lot of lube in my life (no pun intended 😜). Is there a lubricant that is truly petroleum free? I am always up for trying a new product.
 
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I'm trying to image a lubricant that does is not a petroleum derived product other then vegetable oil or lard? Mineral oil is a distillate of petroleum, wax, silicon & synthetic oils are both petroleum products. I use a lot of lube in my life (no pun intended 😜). Is there a lubricant that is truly petroleum free? I am always up for trying a new product.
Well… it is kinda like veggie oil. Camellia oil is used for carbon steel a lot. But it isn’t recommended for razors apparently unless it is the very pure form. The stuff that you get in the West has impurities in it that can lead to corrosion…
 

Steve56

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I'm trying to image a lubricant that does is not a petroleum derived product other then vegetable oil or lard? Mineral oil is a distillate of petroleum, wax, silicon & synthetic oils are all petroleum products. I use a lot of lube in my life (no pun intended 😜). Is there a lubricant that is truly petroleum free? I am always up for trying a new product.

How about silicone oil. Renaissance Wax is synthetic.

Or owl grease, yuk, yuk.
 

Steve56

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Well… it is kinda like veggie oil. Camellia oil is used for carbon steel a lot. But it isn’t recommended for razors apparently unless it is the very pure form. The stuff that you get in the West has impurities in it that can lead to corrosion…

The common stuff that I had at one time hardens and turns brown and rancid over time. OK for short term use.
 

Steve56

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Been using it for years and never had that happen ever.

Maybe a particular vendor or batch?

Use silicone oil, it can be had in food grade, it’s what is used in the razor/knife/gun ‘socks’, and it never changes as long as I have used it. It can also be cheaper. Like all oils, keep it off bone.
 
Maybe a particular vendor or batch?

Use silicone oil, it can be had in food grade, it’s what is used in the razor/knife/gun ‘socks’, and it never changes as long as I have used it. It can also be cheaper. Like all oils, keep it off bone.
I have the same container "Japanese brand so I can't read the writing and two swords on the label" 245ml of Camellia oil for five years and still have 3/4 of it remaining. I use it only on my razors. I believe paid around $5 dollars. Prior, I used mineral oil prior and it worked, but Camellia oil seems to be cleaner and easier to use and rinse off prior to using my razors. I have over 20 razors I use, and most are high carbon steel.
 
The common stuff that I had at one time hardens and turns brown and rancid over time. OK for short term use.
Only time I used "camelia" oil was when it came with a custom razor. It turned into goo on the razor. Came off easily with some isopropyl pads but never used it again. Who knows what was in it
 
Only time I used "camelia" oil was when it came with a custom razor. It turned into goo on the razor. Came off easily with some isopropyl pads but never used it again. Who knows what was in it
Had a razor which was sitting for ~10 years. The oil turned brown and was hard, so I had to polish it on a buffing wheel with compount to take it off.
 
Buck stainless; a very smooth shaver!

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@Mr Bedlington

I like the idea of using silicon spray for razor protection. I can only source this type where I live. Would this silicon spray work for rust prevention? According to the manufacturer :

FUNCTIONS​


LUBRICATES
Ideal for lubricating rubber belts, conveyor belts, valves, locks, guides, cables and sports equipment.
Ideal also for demoulding and releasing cable grommets.
WATERPROOFS AND PROTECTS
Prevents metals oxidation.Protects locks and seals of doors and hatches from frost. Protects electrical systems from moisture and corrosion. Prevents electric current leakage. Odourless, transparent and colourless: suitable for precision devices and plastic mechanisms.
  • Functionality from -40 °C to +260 °C.
  • Resists water and rubbing.
  • Protects seals, rubber, plastic and imitation leather parts from aging.
  • Does not attract dirt or fouling.
  • Works even with the can upside-down.
  • Shake well before use.

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@Mr Bedlington

I like the idea of using silicon spray for razor protection. I can only source this type where I live. Would this silicon spray work for rust prevention? According to the manufacturer :

FUNCTIONS​


LUBRICATES
Ideal for lubricating rubber belts, conveyor belts, valves, locks, guides, cables and sports equipment.
Ideal also for demoulding and releasing cable grommets.
WATERPROOFS AND PROTECTS
Prevents metals oxidation.Protects locks and seals of doors and hatches from frost. Protects electrical systems from moisture and corrosion. Prevents electric current leakage. Odourless, transparent and colourless: suitable for precision devices and plastic mechanisms.
  • Functionality from -40 °C to +260 °C.
  • Resists water and rubbing.
  • Protects seals, rubber, plastic and imitation leather parts from aging.
  • Does not attract dirt or fouling.
  • Works even with the can upside-down.
  • Shake well before use.

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Looks like it will do the job.
 
A lot, and I do mean a lot, of camellia oil sold for use on cutlery, etc, is mostly mineral oil with camellia essence. Pure camellia oil can exhibit 'drying' tendencies, like BLO. So yeah, it can get gummy and it can be a lot of not fun to remove.

A lot of things that aren't petroleum based can serve as a 'lube' in some applications, but may not inhibit oxidation very well. Graphite, for example.

My go-tos are USP mineral oil and VCI paper.
I have a block of camphor in a tin around somewhere too.
And Ren Wax....
Johnson's Paste Wax too sometimes.
 

Legion

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A lot, and I do mean a lot, of camellia oil sold for use on cutlery, etc, is mostly mineral oil with camellia essence. Pure camellia oil can exhibit 'drying' tendencies, like BLO. So yeah, it can get gummy and it can be a lot of not fun to remove.
Choji oil for swords is like that. 99.9% light mineral oil, with a tiny dash of clove oil for scent.

I read that the scent is added so the lady of the house won’t accidentally use it for cooking, and give everyone the squirts.
 

Steve56

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I don’t like sprays because they invariably spray things that don’t need spraying. Get the silicone oil in a bottle and wipe it on. BTW, this is the same stuff that’s in the ‘gun socks’ or ‘knife socks’. It’s a bit messy as all oils are, but it works. I’ve also had vintage ivory and tortoise razors in the socks and never had an issue. But silicone will will darken wood scales.

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