What's up with these auction prices?
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Double Ring:
Cause it's a double ring.
President (not an Aristocrat actually):
Cause it's a president.
Here's the non-dbag answer though. Both razors are very rare, and both are in easily cleanable condition, so they went for prices that are well in the range of what they're worth.
And look at the cases on both. As close to pristine as it gets without being NOS for the era it's from. The red velvet on the Double Ring case is so nice, it has me thinking it may be NOS. And the president case is very beautiful too
Cause it's a double ring.
President (not an Aristocrat actually):
Cause it's a president.
Here's the non-dbag answer though. Both razors are very rare, and both are in easily cleanable condition, so they went for prices that are well in the range of what they're worth.
And look at the cases on both. As close to pristine as it gets without being NOS for the era it's from. The red velvet on the Double Ring case is so nice, it has me thinking it may be NOS. And the president case is very beautiful too
The President was a surprise to me. The razor appeared to me to have a bit of brassing even on the handle, though I could have been wrong. The case though was gorgeous, and I'd planned a bid with the intention of selling the razor in a much worse off President case I have, and move my nearly pristine President into it 
. Not to be though, I discovered this afternoon that it had already gone way higher than my max. planned bid. Still on the lookout for a better President case.
Now the Double Ring? Lets just say that it sold in the range of what I expected it would
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. Not to be though, I discovered this afternoon that it had already gone way higher than my max. planned bid. Still on the lookout for a better President case.Now the Double Ring? Lets just say that it sold in the range of what I expected it would
.The President was a surprise to me. The razor appeared to me to have a bit of brassing even on the handle, though I could have been wrong. The case though was gorgeous, and I'd planned a bid with the intention of selling the razor in a much worse off President case I have, and move my nearly pristine President into it
Now the Double Ring? Lets just say that it sold in the range of what I expected it would
Looks can be very very deceiving when it comes to Presidents. I had one with a totally trashed handle (as did another member here) and when you polish it up, the handle tends to end up beautiful. I actually overpolished mine though and caused minor wear on the nickle polish
Before the dip in prices in the past few months, Presidents regularly sold for that much on ebay. Some even without the case. There seems to have been a bit of a craze and a peak that started a little before I got into wetshaving and went on for 5 or so months after I started until it started declining into this dip. Since I haven't been around long enough, I don't know if that peak was a peak or the normal level of prices, or if this dip is a dip or a normal level of prices. My guess would be that we're going through a downturn...considering that the whole economy is, that seems to make sense
The President was a surprise to me. The razor appeared to me to have a bit of brassing even on the handle, though I could have been wrong. The case though was gorgeous, and I'd planned a bid with the intention of selling the razor in a much worse off President case I have, and move my nearly pristine President into it
Now the Double Ring? Lets just say that it sold in the range of what I expected it would
I am now the proud owner of that president and its case. My reason for buying it was the same as T Rick's. I had my bid in two days ago when I first saw that this was NOT a fatboy. Apparently others discovered this as well and the bid quickly went up to fair market value. Oh BTW, thank you Mr. Nibbler who ever you are.
All the more reason to snipe. Once a razor has one bid, psychologically, it is validated for other buyers and a sort of feeding frenzy starts. The best deals I have gotten are on razors that have 0 bids, and I wait till the last minute to place mine.
Congratulations on your acquisition though, let us know how it cleans up, as I too had concerns about the handle that kept me from bidding.
Thanks.
I don't mind being outbid, but the guy who drives up the price $2 at a time ought to be shot. I mean, gee whiz buddy, show some cojones and put it all on the table at one time!! Or were you just screwing with me, playing some warped game of chicken by trying to drive up the bid to my max without committing yourself?
But really, I wanted the case more than the razor. Like T Rick I have a cherry President just waiting for an equally cherry crib. Pics will come upon delivery.
I don't mind being outbid, but the guy who drives up the price $2 at a time ought to be shot. I mean, gee whiz buddy, show some cojones and put it all on the table at one time!! Or were you just screwing with me, playing some warped game of chicken by trying to drive up the bid to my max without committing yourself?
But really, I wanted the case more than the razor. Like T Rick I have a cherry President just waiting for an equally cherry crib. Pics will come upon delivery.
Just to be clear, that wasn't me. I agree though, pinging the bid up in the minimum increments is pretty ****ty. I think people do that once it is out of their range out of spite. That's why I set my price in my mind, and then snipe at the end of the auction. Otherwise, I always am paranoid that my high bid becomes a target for people like that. Or they are just trying to see what the max is, to see if they are willing to step up.
Bah1
They're only Gillette's.Get a grip guys.
They were the Fusions of their era,let's face it.
They're only Gillette's.Get a grip guys.They were the Fusions of their era,let's face it.I bought a watch on eBay a few years ago (vintage Doxa). Placed my bid and went to bed, then off to work in the morning.
Came home to discover I'd won, but at my max. bid. Checking the bid history, I found the second bidder had increased his bid in increments, until he discovered my top bid. Still more that 12 hours in the auction, he then retracted his bid. Then, he bid again (!) at an amount just under what he knew to be my top bid!
I was furious, complained to eBay that his bids should be canceled and I should be credited a win at the lower number (IIRC, it cost me around $70 over what was my last "high bid" position.
In the end, eBay said they found no evidence of a shill, warned the other Member about retractions (he had several), and I paid for the watch (I did set my bid after all, just PO'ed at the underhanded way my top bid was exposed/pushed).
Came home to discover I'd won, but at my max. bid. Checking the bid history, I found the second bidder had increased his bid in increments, until he discovered my top bid. Still more that 12 hours in the auction, he then retracted his bid. Then, he bid again (!) at an amount just under what he knew to be my top bid!
I was furious, complained to eBay that his bids should be canceled and I should be credited a win at the lower number (IIRC, it cost me around $70 over what was my last "high bid" position.
In the end, eBay said they found no evidence of a shill, warned the other Member about retractions (he had several), and I paid for the watch (I did set my bid after all, just PO'ed at the underhanded way my top bid was exposed/pushed).
They lied. It's obvious what happened; they chose not to prosecute. I'd be p.o.'d too.
I bet the seller was one of them Powersellers that makes eebay so much dough?
Since the seller can refuse to honor a bid retract request, why would he in your case? And then take his re-bid? That bidder's top bid would have brought him more money than you. Damn right it was a shill.
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I'm either cheap or you guys don't know the cost of a gallon of milk.Those prices are outrageous.If those were in an antique store at those prices I'd never walk in there again.Just to clarify my opinion if those razors were 150 dollars cheaper I'd still snicker at the sucker who paid it.
While I respect your right to your opinion (and you can snciker at whatever you like), I do not tolerate being called a sucker (or any other name not of my choosing for that matter). And I feel no better about seeing others here addressed in that manner either.
So, since these prices are on eBay, are you never going there again either? BTW, these aren't milk (which can be had anywhere there are cows), these are antiques, 50+ and 100+ years old. Of course, that would be stating the "obvious".
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Sounds like a friend of the seller to me. I have been on Ebay for more than 10 years. I have always found it suspicious that a seller will list an item at a high "Buy it Now" with a low opening bid. Of course, the first bid will kill the "Buy it Now". Then you see multiple bids by low feedback bidders until the bid gets into the ballpark of the "BIN" price. Like yours, to protect the seller's desired price point.
If I had seen that double ring it would have sold for higher for sure! That is a darn fine price and I object to the sucker term being thrown around here! Congrats to T Rick!
(shrugs) It's what the market will bear. If I get priced out of vintage razors, that will be a little irksome, but at this point I have more than one for each day of the month.
I'm for buyers paying what they want and sellers getting what they can.
We high-five each other when we get a Toggle from an old lady at an estate sale for five bucks or score a lot at a shop for a song, we stamp our feet in outrage when somebody asks too much for a razor on Ebay.
I don't think it's fair to take advantage of the one without tolerating the other.
I'm for buyers paying what they want and sellers getting what they can.
We high-five each other when we get a Toggle from an old lady at an estate sale for five bucks or score a lot at a shop for a song, we stamp our feet in outrage when somebody asks too much for a razor on Ebay.
I don't think it's fair to take advantage of the one without tolerating the other.
I meant to ask this in another thread, and don't want to start any arguments, but why does buying low and selling high seem to be looked down on by so many here? Not talking about on the BST, but on ebay, etc.
Something's worth whatever I can get for it, if I intend to sell it. If I find it for $1 at a shop, I paid the shop's price and they're happy. If I turn it around and sell it for $20, the buyer paid what he's willing to pay, and is likewise happy. Was the shop somehow cheated because I turned a profit on their low price? Was the buyer cheated because of my investment of $1 turned into $20? In both cases, no. At least I can't see how. Buy low, sell high.
What's the problem with that, or have I misunderstood the point?
Something's worth whatever I can get for it, if I intend to sell it. If I find it for $1 at a shop, I paid the shop's price and they're happy. If I turn it around and sell it for $20, the buyer paid what he's willing to pay, and is likewise happy. Was the shop somehow cheated because I turned a profit on their low price? Was the buyer cheated because of my investment of $1 turned into $20? In both cases, no. At least I can't see how. Buy low, sell high.
What's the problem with that, or have I misunderstood the point?
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That double ring is awesome (the case even moreso). Hope someone posts a picture of it after it's cleaned up!
I got a single ring a while back that was pitch black. After a polishing it looks like brand new. Silver coating is perfect. Nice buy.
I got a single ring a while back that was pitch black. After a polishing it looks like brand new. Silver coating is perfect. Nice buy.
