I went to an antique store today.The man at the counter said "can I help you"I told him I was looking for safety razors.He said he had three in his truck outside,he hadn't brought them in yet.I looked around while he went out to get them.He brought in a near mint fatboy and two Presidents,one in the case.The only way to tell they aren't mint is a little dried soap scum.I'll post pictures tomorrow.