I stumbled upon this company's website a few days ago; had never heard of them previously. Had a chance to speak with the owner (most pleasant guy) who advised his razors are made to his spec by a Pakistani manufacturer. They look nice enough. Anyone have a first hand experience with this company and/or product?
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Pakistan=Junk.
I generally agree, but this particular company/person is a well regarded coticule salesman who knows honing. I've read of a few people have been pleased with his razors. I'm not saying anything other than it might be worth searching out the guys that bought them and askign. These might be the .000000000001%.
thats pretty close to me... if i ever get into straights ill have to reportback 
Have you tried them and come to that conclusion yourself, or are you simply passing on other people's opinions?
I have tried three Pakistani razors and they all worked out just fine.
Selective.
See post #49 here in this other thread.
It is easy to be dismissive of things we don't know and follow the "in" crowd, but I suggest that to find out for yourself is the best way to determine what is or is not true.
I honed up three Pakistani razors, and all three shave just fine. That's 100% success rate, not failure rate.
Perhaps, let's say, hypothetically..that someone tried honing up a Pakistani razor on a JNat or something....maybe that hone didn't have the Ooomph needed to set the bevel correctly.
But I had no problems hitting them up on the DMT600 (they were difficult to set the bevel on) and my standard lapping film progression from there, and they all turned out OK.
One of my hypothesis about such razors as the Gold Dollar that some people have objections to, or have had sub-par results from is that I believe that quite likely the people who honed them didn't spend the necessary time and effort into honing them correctly.
They gave up instead of kept trying to get it right, figuring "It must be this piece of Junk Chinese/Pakistani razor.." not the fact that they hadn't set the bevel in the first place. Yet, when faced with a "hard to hone" C135 Thiers Issard, they stick with it and stick with it until they get it right because in that case they think the challenge is worth it.
If they had spent similar effort on the GD or Pakistani razor I believe their efforts would have likewise been repaid.
Guys, razors are simply pieces of heat treated steel. There is no rocket science to it. Some of our well respected custom razor guys here on this forum heat treat their blades in rather primitive kiln setups in their garage/back yards. It is not too difficult for a guy in Pakistan, or Ningbo China to get even better results in a production environment where they may actually have proper heat treatment facilities at their disposal (see attachment for the Gold Dollar factory heat treatment equipment)
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Just what has been written before. For $129 I would try something else, it's not like it's a 4 dollar GD.
I hear you Seraphim, but I have tried a few and they have been no good.
Tried setting bevel on a DMT 1200/600/325. All no good.
I am pretty sure this was a crap blade. Not sure of origin but I got it popping hairs, the edge dies after a few passes.
Tried setting bevel on a DMT 1200/600/325. All no good.
I am pretty sure this was a crap blade. Not sure of origin but I got it popping hairs, the edge dies after a few passes.
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I honed up three Pakistani razors, and all three shave just fine. That's 100% success rate, not failure rate.
Perhaps, let's say, hypothetically..that someone tried honing up a Pakistani razor on a JNat or something....maybe that hone didn't have the Ooomph needed to set the bevel correctly.
But I had no problems hitting them up on the DMT600 (they were difficult to set the bevel on) and my standard lapping film progression from there, and they all turned out OK.
One of my hypothesis about such razors as the Gold Dollar that some people have objections to, or have had sub-par results from is that I believe that quite likely the people who honed them didn't spend the necessary time and effort into honing them correctly.
They gave up instead of kept trying to get it right, figuring "It must be this piece of Junk Chinese/Pakistani razor.." not the fact that they hadn't set the bevel in the first place. Yet, when faced with a "hard to hone" C135 Thiers Issard, they stick with it and stick with it until they get it right because in that case they think the challenge is worth it.
If they had spent similar effort on the GD or Pakistani razor I believe their efforts would have likewise been repaid.
Guys, razors are simply pieces of heat treated steel. There is no rocket science to it. Some of our well respected custom razor guys here on this forum heat treat their blades in rather primitive kiln setups in their garage/back yards. It is not too difficult for a guy in Pakistan, or Ningbo China to get even better results in a production environment where they may actually have proper heat treatment facilities at their disposal (see attachment for the Gold Dollar factory heat treatment equipment)
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Although everything you say above makes sense and is both logical and reasonable as well as subject to verification via the scientific process, I still feel that you must be mistaken.
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Well, seeing as how I'm looking to get into this on the budget side (read not doing my own honing/sharpening), I guess a Gold Dollar is out of the question here. Guess I'll watch B/S/T for a while or save up for an entry level razor from one of our fine vendors.
The idea that Pakistani=junk has been established by the rule of blatant assertion.
People say that they are junk.
Other people read that someone said that they are junk, yet never bothered trying them for themselves, so they simply post that they too feel that they are junk, which other people who have also never tried them, but have now read from two other people that they are junk see, and thereby feel justified in also posting with full internets authority that those razors are surely junk, because they've heard it before....the propagation goes on doubling and doubling....
Next thing you know, it has been established as Truth without anybody actually tryingh it out for themselves.
This is the tactic that was employed by certain shady internet dens of iniquity.
Oakeshott, you have tried a Gold Dollar razor, right? Was it "junk" as those guys warned you? Do you believe what the official view was, or was your personal experience different from that proclaimed from atop the soapbox?
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. That is what the forums are for. But the continuation of misinformation without finding out for one's self is what boils my butt. (No offense to you personally, Wid!
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No offense taken, I can understand your point.
BTW, if you look at BB Wiki it also says under "Bad Brands". If this info to be trusted, well...............................
Razors to STAY AWAY from.
By and large most very inexpensive razors, or (by and large) any razor made in Pakistan, India or China. Some brands to stay away from Zeepk, Double Arrow, etc. If the razor is not stamped with a brand name, avoid it.
Razors to STAY AWAY from.
By and large most very inexpensive razors, or (by and large) any razor made in Pakistan, India or China. Some brands to stay away from Zeepk, Double Arrow, etc. If the razor is not stamped with a brand name, avoid it.
Speaking for the disposable blade straights, Most of the Parker disposables are made in Pakistan, and I have several, of which all are really nice straights.
Speaking for the disposable blade straights, Most of the Parker disposables are made in Pakistan, and I have several, of which all are really nice straights.
Do you use Pakistani steel against your face?
I'm going to order a razor made in Pakistan to see if I can hone it.
I can only find one seller on the bay and his feedback is below what I feel comfortable with.
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The ones I have are all the disposable blade model, but they are made of stainless steel and are a quality razor. I've never had any problems with any of them.
has anyone tried oe of those Sweeny Tod things I see advertized on the bay all the time?
I tried to hone 3 brand new "made in Pakistan" along with a couple of the new C-mon razors.
Did it as a favor for a local barber. I said I would try but no promises on the Pakistan razors.
None would hold a edge, that being said the overall fit/finish was better then the typically GD's I've had.
The new C-mons honed up pretty well!
Could a razor "made in Pakistan" be good. Sure, so maybe the Perfect Edge razor is fine.
Did it as a favor for a local barber. I said I would try but no promises on the Pakistan razors.
None would hold a edge, that being said the overall fit/finish was better then the typically GD's I've had.
The new C-mons honed up pretty well!
Could a razor "made in Pakistan" be good. Sure, so maybe the Perfect Edge razor is fine.
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