The Armenian Genocide

[PlasticCity]

Hi everyone, today, April 24th is the day of recognition for the Armenian Genocide, in which the Turks massacred my people, 1.5 million of them. From men to women and children as well, I have posted a few links with some background and information. You can search for more information as well, there are many gruesome images, and other articles and publishings. I very dearly love my country and people and it is quite a burden for myself and many Armenians to know that this genocide is not accepted by all, and to this day Turkey has not accepted nor recognized the massacre they had perpetrated. I appreciate your time, thank you.

http://www.armenian-genocide.org/genocidefaq.html

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local-beat/The-Power-of-Memory-the-Armenian-Genocide-91942109.html

 

[bamafan64]

A true tragedy and a disgrace that Turkey won't admit what they did. Today's political climate is becoming more and more pro-Muslim, so I don't expect to see any pressure on Turkey any time soon. Many in the media and in politics seem to think that if the olive branch is extended to radical Islamics, they will stop the violence and play nice. After many years experimenting with this philosophy, they still haven't learned that this approach did not and is not working.

 

[citizensoldierny]

As a grandchild of survivors of that massacre thanks for the reminder for all. Especially sad to see that the world still hasn't learned from this attempt to eradicate a people or the many attempts that have followed.

 

[raisindot]

As a Jewish person, I find it unacceptable that some people who are quick to condemn Holocaust-deniars are hesitant about condemning those who deny the Armenian genocide. There is no such thing as political expediency when it comes to owning up to history, and any possible debate over whether this tragedy occurred should long ago have been ended with the huge amount of photographic, forensic and eyewitness testimony that clearly shows that the Turks did commit this crime.

Jeff in Boston

 

[Alacrity59]

Hi everyone, today, April 24th is the day of recognition for the Armenian Genocide, in which the Turks massacred my people, 1.5 million of them. From men to women and children as well, I have posted a few links with some background and information. You can search for more information as well, there are many gruesome images, and other articles and publishings. I very dearly love my country and people and it is quite a burden for myself and many Armenians to know that this genocide is not accepted by all, and to this day Turkey has not accepted nor recognized the massacre they had perpetrated. I appreciate your time, thank you.

http://www.armenian-genocide.org/genocidefaq.html

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local-beat/The-Power-of-Memory-the-Armenian-Genocide-91942109.html

Well said. I've not met anybody that has denied this genocide but I only know of it from a person I worked with 30 years ago and my wife's Neurologist. So I spent some minimal time to try to understand it. I do not believe it has entered popular culture in North America.

Please understand when I say minimal time I mean in no way to say the event was minimal.

 

[goby]

I am an officer of the Remember the Holocaust page on facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5992512223&ref=ts


I will post your links on our board. Thank you for reminding me.

Anthony

 

[PlasticCity]

Hello everyone, thank you for the kind words and recognition, it is appreciate, and all the responses as well. Great forum to be a part of, really.

 

[TheBigO]

As a Jewish person, I find it unacceptable that some people who are quick to condemn Holocaust-deniars are hesitant about condemning those who deny the Armenian genocide. There is no such thing as political expediency when it comes to owning up to history, and any possible debate over whether this tragedy occurred should long ago have been ended with the huge amount of photographic, forensic and eyewitness testimony that clearly shows that the Turks did commit this crime.

Jeff in Boston

I do find it slightly ironic that Israel doesn't recognize the genocide.

citation

 

[RayH]

I seem to recall that Yasser Arafat had an uncle who was an officer in the turkish army who took part in the Armenian Genocide. Not the uncle who was the Mufti of Jerusalem and helped recruit muslims for the Reich, this is different one.
Blood will tell.

 

[the beav]

There was a thread on this two years ago:

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=44538&highlight=armenian

 

[Unknownsoldier]

Isn't this genocide going the same way as the Katyn Massacre, so much mistruth surrounds it, that the facts are getting muddled....

Tom

 

[PlasticCity]

Thank you to everyone who voiced that it should indeed be acknowledged and recognized it, however, we shouldn't start attacking one another, as I had said politics are a touchy subject for people, and it is not right to offend one another on here.

 

[Austin]

Gents, I suggest you cool your jets. Banishment from the Barber shop will be swift and merciless. I don't like these type of threads because they turn personal rather quickly. Let's be gents and move on. Thank you.

 

[Doc4]

Ditto.

The discussion about Israel has been removed from this thread.

 

[raisindot]

Thank you for removing all of the bigoted messages from this discussion, Mr. Moderator.

That said, I might suggest that you place a new sticky at the top of the Barber Shop forum that clearly defines that rules around political topics. I would suggest that rule #1 be that there is zero tolerance for any racist or bigoted messages or links to sites that contain such messages. Political debates are quite a different thing than accusations against members of a particular religion, race, or culture.

Soapbox off.

Jeff in Boston

 

[AndrewWiggin]

I know of the genocide vaguely, but recent readings about the Crusades have shored up some knowledge so I know more of the animosity there.

Ethnic cleansing is a miserable thing, it's a shame that the Caucasus seems to have so much trouble with it. We need to be taught more about mistakes in the past-the Holocaust should not be discounted, but Rwanda, Sudan, and Armenia need to be emphasized as well. There are ancient crimes, old crimes, and new crimes, and they all need to be discussed.

Knowledge of history is one of the most important things we can be armed with when confronted with new threats of genocide.

 

[TheBigO]

I know of the genocide vaguely, but recent readings about the Crusades have shored up some knowledge so I know more of the animosity there.

Ethnic cleansing is a miserable thing, it's a shame that the Caucasus seems to have so much trouble with it. We need to be taught more about mistakes in the past-the Holocaust should not be discounted, but Rwanda, Sudan, and Armenia need to be emphasized as well. There are ancient crimes, old crimes, and new crimes, and they all need to be discussed.

Knowledge of history is one of the most important things we can be armed with when confronted with new threats of genocide.

Definitely agree with everything you said. On a factual note, Sudan is amidst a civil war, not a genocide. Without getting into the technical details of it, Darfur is definined as a genocide primarily within the United States and United Kingdom. The UN concluded that the events in Darfur don't meet the criteria for genocide/ethnic cleansing and is instead a civil war.

That being said, it is still horrible what is happening in Sudan.

Like the Armenians, the Circassians' ethnic cleansing is often overlooked as well. I pray for them, and all other ethnicities of the world, a safe, persecution-free, future.

 

[PlasticCity]

It is great getting spearding information and learning new things, all is appreciated gentlemen, my people have been through a lot coming, and all the while being a tiny country, with an immense amount of history and culture.

 

[raisindot]

It is great getting spearding information and learning new things, all is appreciated gentlemen, my people have been through a lot coming, and all the while being a tiny country, with an immense amount of history and culture.

Not to mention beautiful women and damned good cuisine!



Jeff in Boston

 

[Thebigspendur]

The sad truth is Humans are social animals to the extreme point when conditions deteriorate group "a" looks to blame group "b" for all the problems or if group "a" is different enough that's reason enough to eliminate them. it's been that way throughout the ages and as long as Humans are Humans it will never change.