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Tcheon Fung and BDF soaps. What's Your Opinion?

I'm thinking of trying either some Tcheon Fung or BDF soap. My favorite soap is Proraso. How do you gents like either of these soaps and how would they compare with Proraso for cushion and slickness?
 
I tried the TFS Bergamotto Nerolli soap last month.
It smells fresh and fruity but not that original, it lathers pretty easy to a thick foam but it tents to dry out pretty quick. It's good, but not the best. The Proraso soap gives me a better result.
 
I like the TFS line of soaps. I have not tried their hard soaps but found their other offerings excellent such as the almond(pretty hard to do that wrong), Bergmont, etc. Great soaps really. I mean, they are made in Italy so what can be bad about them?:laugh:
 
The TFS soaps are probably the worst soaps that I've tried.

Could you explain why? Which soap did you use?
I like TFS soaps a lot, as long as you remember to use enough water they could work out for you as well. These are thirsty soaps, and plenty of water will reward you with a slick and moisturising lather.
 
I've only used the soft soaps (original and bergamotto neroli intensa) and fine them to perform very similarly to Proraso soft soap in the green tub. The scent of bergamotto neroli is very nice IMO. I find that they do have the tendency to dry out just like Proraso does for me..... so make sure to add plenty of water a little at a time throughout the shave.

Ben
 
Tried out the BDF Raffinato this morning. This soap definitely as the strongest sweet almond smell out of all the italian varieties I've tried (P.160, RR Classic, Cella, Vitos). Love the scent.

I used the marco method to lather it up. I'm not very good at the marco method, I just don't have the touch for it yet and the wet brush always leads to bubbly lather. That was sort of the case for me today and the lather was not as creamy as I would like. I'm going to give it a go again tomorrow with the brooks_bro method (load like you hate it with a damp brush) and see what happens.

I think this one is a winner!
 

JCinPA

The Lather Maestro
First, what brush are you using? The Marco method is more of a procedure than a strict recipe. For instance, I like using a big Omega Pro 49 with Proraso or Cella. But I find I have to give it one gentle vertical pump. Not a flick, just a soft pump to dump a little water out after the soak.

Then, DO NOT press much, softly swirl on just the tips. Use your cell phone stopwatch function and swirl for a full minute, very gently at first, then more vigorously as the lather develops. Then I think the Marco Method will settle in for you.

With each brush you need to determine if you can just let it drip dry, or maybe you need to give it a gentle pump or two, gentle being the operative word here. But you want it wet you are just modifying for minor brush idiosyncrasies. You should get a truly luxurious lather that way.

Second, tell me more about this BDF Raffinato. I like the TFS, in the RazoRock varieties, Don Marco in particular. However, I would still say Cella and Proraso outclass them in lather quality. Is the BDF stuff truly a step up? How would you compare it to Cella, which has rapidly become a favorite of mine? Thanks!
 
I like the RR LaFamiglia line of soaps, which I'm told is the same as the TFS soft soaps. I have the Cumba Cheech and the Don Marco. The Cumba Cheech is also a fantastic scent.

These lathers benefit greatly from the addition of even 2-3 drops of glycerin, and I add more water before the second pass. If you do this they are very, very good.
 
First, what brush are you using? The Marco method is more of a procedure than a strict recipe. For instance, I like using a big Omega Pro 49 with Proraso or Cella. But I find I have to give it one gentle vertical pump. Not a flick, just a soft pump to dump a little water out after the soak.

Then, DO NOT press much, softly swirl on just the tips. Use your cell phone stopwatch function and swirl for a full minute, very gently at first, then more vigorously as the lather develops. Then I think the Marco Method will settle in for you.

With each brush you need to determine if you can just let it drip dry, or maybe you need to give it a gentle pump or two, gentle being the operative word here. But you want it wet you are just modifying for minor brush idiosyncrasies. You should get a truly luxurious lather that way.

Second, tell me more about this BDF Raffinato. I like the TFS, in the RazoRock varieties, Don Marco in particular. However, I would still say Cella and Proraso outclass them in lather quality. Is the BDF stuff truly a step up? How would you compare it to Cella, which has rapidly become a favorite of mine? Thanks!

Re: Marco Method: I have no doubt it is an effective method. I just need to practice more. Today, I used my M&F Blond Stubby. I know that brush is going to retain a lot of water and like you mentioned, trial and error is necessary to determine how much to leave before swirling. I am very aware that pressure is to be light, again, I think my trouble with this method has to do more with the water ratio than the pressure. I counted 120 swirls today so I would have expected a sufficient load, however, I was getting substantial airy lather developing on the tub and I think that is indicative of too much water.

Because of my failure to create lather to my standards (although I still go a sufficient result for a DFS), I don't know if for me I would say this is a step up from RR. I really hated my red tube of cella but this soap, IMO has a much better scent and lather output than the red tub of cella had.
 
I've been trying some samples of BdF soap that I was PIF'ed for the past few days and I'm really enjoying it. I would say the slickness far exceeds that of the Proraso white tub (that I've been using for the past few weeks exclusively before this). My favorite scent is Esclusivo, it reminds me of DR Harris Arlington only spicier.
 
Great stuff!




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