Stainless Steel Full Hollow Bevel Cutting?

[leadingedge]

Hi guys,

Has anyone tried, or can anybody confirm how well it will work to cut a bevel on a newly purchased Dovo Stainless Steel full hollow blade, using a DMT 8EE only, and then finishing off honing and polishing that edge with various grades of pastes on a 4 sided balsa wood paddle strop?

Want to give this a try, but I'm not sure how well it will work?

 

[professorchaos]

Will the edge in its current state pass the TNT? If it doesn't, then the DMT will take a long time to fix it.

Also, I don't know how I feel about using pastes for removing a lot of metal. I normally use them to tweak an edge that is almost where I want it.

 

[leadingedge]

Not a complete pass, so I guess I will need to start lower to set the bevel.

If I step from 1k Norton to 8K DMT8EE, then to 12K Naniwas, would that progression be OK, or will the DMT8EE leave an edge that is too rough with the diamonds?

 

[professorchaos]

DMT cuts pretty quick so that jump shouldn't be too big to bridge. Just give the razor enough time on the DMT.

I wouldn't worry about how the DMT cuts, Naniwa's will create a very smooth edge. Use a slurry and if it starts to thicken too quickly while you are honing, add a few drops of water. It is designed to break down with use, so repeat the process two or three times. When done, the edge will be a bright, mirror polish (as opposed to the dmt edge which should look a little dull).

 

[leadingedge]

DMT cuts pretty quick so that jump shouldn't be too big to bridge. Just give the razor enough time on the DMT.

I wouldn't worry about how the DMT cuts, Naniwa's will create a very smooth edge. Use a slurry and if it starts to thicken too quickly while you are honing, add a few drops of water. It is designed to break down with use, so repeat the process two or three times. When done, the edge will be a bright, mirror polish (as opposed to the dmt edge which should look a little dull).

Thanks Henry, good advice. I've had various opinions about the DMT8EE being too rough(diamonds), and some guys have even told me it would take too long to finish off with the Norton 12k after the DMT8EE has made the edge very rough.

I am also actually considering(as an alternative to the abovementioned) a few Naniwas stones: 1K, 3/8K combo, and the 12K. I am still considering getting a DMT8C for lapping all of the nortons. Would this combo of stones be better for general use, and on a stainless steel Full Hollow?

 

[professorchaos]

Thanks Henry, good advice. I've had various opinions about the DMT8EE being too rough(diamonds), and some guys have even told me it would take too long to finish off with the Norton 12k after the DMT8EE has made the edge very rough.

I am also actually considering(as an alternative to the abovementioned) a few Naniwas stones: 1K, 3/8K combo, and the 12K. I am still considering getting a DMT8C for lapping all of the nortons. Would this combo of stones be better for general use, and on a stainless steel Full Hollow?

I only have one DMT, the 1.2K, and never have problems removing the scratch pattern from it. It is a great hone. The concern, I believe, stems from how diamond cuts the steel. Simply put, diamond abrasives cut the steel deeper than other abrasives - also one of the reasons it cuts so quickly. The goal then is to stay on the next hone long enough to remove the majority of those scratches.

You'll not hear anything about Naniwas from me other than praise. They are reasonably priced, easy to use and leave a nice finish. Unfortunately, I've not used any of the hones you list...the 10K is my favorite synthetic finisher.

Don't worry about stainless or carbon, full hollow or wedges when deciding on hones. All the ones you have listed are more the capable of doing the job. Far more important is learning how to get the most out of the hones you use.

 

[leadingedge]

Very true, thanks for the advice Henry! I will probably stick to the Norton selection of stones then, and practise my honing until I get it right, and know for sure that if anything goes wrong, I can not blame it on the Norton stones at all, only on myself! LOL

 

[wdwrx]

FWIW Pasted strop honing is done quite frequently on German and French shaving sites. Even including bevel setting. Not that I've ever tried it, but a quick tour through Coupe-Chou Club (http://coupechouclub.cultureforum.net/ will show that it's certainly possible. I think that you'd need a pretty good selection of pastes though.
PS Google Translate does a pretty good job.

 

[Slartibartfast]

I have not used them a lot, because i like the edge off my naniwas.

But i used the dovo green and red paste on a pair of french wedges that were causing me heartache. It worked pretty well.

FWIW Pasted strop honing is done quite frequently on German and French shaving sites. Even including bevel setting. Not that I've ever tried it, but a quick tour through Coupe-Chou Club (http://coupechouclub.cultureforum.net/ will show that it's certainly possible. I think that you'd need a pretty good selection of pastes though.
PS Google Translate does a pretty good job.

 

[leadingedge]

I will also get some pastes and make myself a Balsa wood paddle strop just to play with, and finish off. That should give me plenty of options. Now I just need to learn how to hone! LOL