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Semogue 620 vs. Semogue 1438

As the knots are identical (as far as I know) I thought it could be interesting to see if the performance is identical too of the Semogue 620 and the 1438.


OK, here we go:

I soaked the brushes while showering and then lathered up with Culmak Shaving Soap.

Loading: No difference. They pick up soap with the utmost ease.

First pass: It was very hard to tell the two brushes apart from the feel, they felt equal in backbone and prickliness.

Second pass: A blind test doesn't make any sense as the two handles are different, but I still couldn't tell them apart.

Third pass: Still no difference as such. It wasn't a feel difference, it was a small visual difference; the 620 splayed a little more than the 1438. However I won't put this down to a difference with any importance, as the 620 has been used more times than the 1438, and the setting of the knots might also be a little different and the important thing must be the feel of the brush and not how it looks when applying lather.

Fourth pass: Still no difference, not that it comes as a surprise :001_smile


Data:
620
1438
Hair typeBoar, Extra 75% topsBoar, Extra 75% tops
HandleAcrylic, clear/blackWood, painted, sand/red/black
Weight [gram]60.042.0
Knot diameter [mm]21.821.5
Loft [mm]50.249.9
Total height [mm]96.898.1


















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Result
I can't say that this result comes as a surprise, with identical knots I would expect them to perform identical - and they do.
The knot does take a bit of time to break in, but I can't help thinking that these brushes, along with the 1520 which has the same knot, would be perfect for a person new to boars.
When the knot is broken in, it loads very easy and it makes lather just as easy, no matter if it is face lathering or bowl lathering.

My personal take is; if I would like to use a modern looking brush I would choose the acrylic handled 620. If on the other hand I would like to use a brush with a classic look I would choose the 1438 - as this is the way I see them.

And just for information; I broke the 620 in by hand lathering if I didn't use it for shaving, once or twice a day for a month, and that was it. I haven't noticed any differences in use since.
The ends split quite fast but it took some time to get a good flowthrough and for it to hold enough lather for at least three passes.
 
I for one am appreciative of this review as I'm on the hunt for boars and any additional information from members like you help immensly. Thank you.
 
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Lifted photo from SHM's post--nicely photographed, SHM.

I love both of these brushes. Just got them last week and have been breaking in both with care; and hand lathering to further the break-in process. At first I favored the 1438, but now that the 620 is beginning to blossom, I'd have a tough time choosing between the two. So I alternate between the 1438 and the 620. Both are exceptional boar brushes for those of us who prefer low-loft, non-floppy brushes with something of a refreshing scrubby feel. Two Semogue #1 brushes in my shave book. My badgers sleep with these Semogues on duty--and they're on duty daily! I like them so much that I'll likely buy another pair. In addition to the 620's exceptional lathering properties and bristle feel, there is an allure to the look of this brush's acrylic handle--it's comfortably configured to feels great in hand. The photos of the 620 really don't reflect the feel of this well-designed handle.
 
I love the 1438 and its a soap killer. I opted for the 1438 since it had same knot as the 620 but was a cheaper alternative for me. If only Semogue had an 1800 knot in an acrylic handle like the 830 or SOC would be perfection too!
 
Which handle do you find more comfortable to hold?

The 1438 and the 620 have very comfortable handles. There is a unique feel in the 620's acrylic handle. But I feel the 1438 has the lathering edge--but I wouldn't give up either brush. Get both!
 
1438 was my first brush. I was looking for a vintage look with good face lathering abilities. This is it. Now I am looking at acrylic handles in either badger or boar, I prefer badger brushes by a small but noticeable margin.
Of course I don't have anything in butterscotch or beehive, or horse, or synthetic...somebody stop me!
 
Hi all,

I have never used brand brushes before, only nonames. Yesterday I received 1438 and was wondered that it lost some bristles during lathering process. How do you think is it normal for such famous product?
 
Here we are.

Yes it is normal to lose some hairs. With time it wont lose any hair at all.

Definitely will buy the 1438. Much cheaper and handle without glue problems such as the 620 and 830. The handle of those two can easily split from the knot with use.
 
Sorry to revive such an old thread. I have a well broken in Semogue 1503, with which I a very happy, and a few synthetics I picked up along the way. I don't need another brush but my lather bowl and soap dish are both red and the handle on the 1438 is just gorgeous!

Please tell me I don't need another brush. Someone, please stop me!
 
You don't need another brush. How many brushes does one person really need? The 1438 looks like it belongs to Santa Claus with those colors. If you drop it on a hard surface, the paint will chip.

How am I doing so far? :lol1:
 
I've had one for years and it's a fantastic brush. It's got a beautiful handle, never had any shedding problems, produces great lather and Amazon has it for well under $20. After a few years the paint did start cracking around the top a bit but to me it gave it more character.

Get the brush.
 
The Semogue 1438 is the brush I've been considering buying. I joined the leap year and 20s restraint, so it's now or never.
 
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