Recommend Malty Bready Pipe Tobaccos?

[marcopolo]

Hi folks...

I will try doing pipe smoking again, 5 years before I stopped smoking all fine tobaccos (Dunhill Dark Flake, Elizabethan Mixture, Royal Yacht and more...) tastes bad chemical to me. I cleaned my pipes= no succes taste was bitter chemical ash taste. In this time I had used antidepressiva medical and 4 pills of blood pressure medicals.

Soi I will try it again, I not use antidepressiva anymore I be better ....but I use the 4 pills daily of blood pressure, smoking cigarettes make my blood pressure raise too much up, so I will try it with pipe smoking again.

I look for tobaccos who are more malty- bready, slight dark fruits medium nic.
Not these very sweet hay citrus virginias, more malty..... and pipe tobaccos who are not full with ethylacetat or something chemical gas/alcohols,
less chemical....

I think of Marlin Flake, or some of the HU tobaccos...the HU tobaccos have way less chemicals than the Petersons and Dunhills.....
I live in Europe and not have access to us tobaccos...so do you can recommend me good malty, bready, slight dark fruit pipe tobaccos? (without orientals and latakia)

Do xou have some good tip for me?

marcopolo

 

[Hirsute]

I really like Solani tobaccos, and Solani Silver and Solani Aged Burley Flake would be a good choice for something that's more of a malty/bready non-chemical tasting tobacco. Also, assuming UK tobaccos are available to you, Robert McConnell Folded Flake might be a good match as well.

 

[Columbo]

Hi folks...

I will try doing pipe smoking again, 5 years before I stopped smoking all fine tobaccos (Dunhill Dark Flake, Elizabethan Mixture, Royal Yacht and more...) tastes bad chemical to me. I cleaned my pipes= no succes taste was bitter chemical ash taste. In this time I had used antidepressiva medical and 4 pills of blood pressure medicals.

Soi I will try it again, I not use antidepressiva anymore I be better ....but I use the 4 pills daily of blood pressure, smoking cigarettes make my blood pressure raise too much up, so I will try it with pipe smoking again.

I look for tobaccos who are more malty- bready, slight dark fruits medium nic.
Not these very sweet hay citrus virginias, more malty..... and pipe tobaccos who are not full with ethylacetat or something chemical gas/alcohols,
less chemical....

I think of Marlin Flake, or some of the HU tobaccos...the HU tobaccos have way less chemicals than the Petersons and Dunhills.....
I live in Europe and not have access to us tobaccos...so do you can recommend me good malty, bready, slight dark fruit pipe tobaccos? (without orientals and latakia)

Do xou have some good tip for me?

marcopolo

If you have access to the full HU line card, another to sample might be Director's Cut, which is a tweaked curly VaPer (with hints of DFK and Burley), which should moderate from the zesty sweetness of a quality straight VA, with an interesting complexity.

Perhaps not "malty" enough for you, but I wouldn't turn it away.

 

[8 Track]

HU Nashville County.

 

[Columbo]

HU Nashville County.

I don't even know what's in it. But it just sounds mighty good.

 

[ChefJohnBoy-ardee]

I like SG Best Brown. Especially out of a cob. It tastes bready to me. I haven't smoked it in a while. I may to find a jar on my day off. Thank you.

 

[marcopolo]

I like mild malty, not so much that I staste like full coffeee beans this is bitter ob my tonque...
this reminds me on th eDunhill 5 year mature I have smoked 5 years before as a sample...it was full of bitter coffee beans for me....metapher: like the dark brazilian cigars they are coffeee bitter taste too...(not all)

I hope I can enjoy pipe smoking again, I don't know what is was 5 years before, I think it was the antidepressiva who make all pip tobaccos taste bad for me...

Problem with HU tobaccoo line ist their 100gram tins- too much.......
they not have dark mild maty, dark slight fruit bready tobacco on their 50 gram tins? medium nic hit...
Yeah the Samual Gawith 19792 muaaaahahaha the tobacco of death high nic, no please dumb joke....

I like high nic hit tobacco too, irish flake or something....but only one tobacco. The others should medium in nicotine I will buy three tobaccos this week..... (have ordered 3 estate pipes).....

How does the Mc Baren HH Old Dark Fired taste or the Boid Kentucky?
Rattrays Marlin Flake is a good one.
Irish Flake
Then the last third tobacco should be mild dark malty, bready, slight dark fruit medium nic hit...

The most virginias are hay citrus that taste good but I like it more mild molasse bready-malty......not bitter coffee, not bitter chocolate/cocoa...not easy....hmmmmm...

I find (when I remind 5 years back) the Peterson (exept irish flake) and Dunhills are full with chemicals...the Rattrays and HU tobaccos not so.....

What comes up in my mind: DTM Mellow Mallard?

marcopolo

 

[marcopolo]

The SG tobaccos are so wet.......needs 1 hour or more to get good dry for smoke...

 

[Columbo]

I like mild malty, not so much that I staste like full coffeee beans this is bitter ob my tonque...
this reminds me on th eDunhill 5 year mature I have smoked 5 years before as a sample...it was full of bitter coffee beans for me....metapher: like the dark brazilian cigars they are coffeee bitter taste too...(not all)

I hope I can enjoy pipe smoking again, I don't know what is was 5 years before, I think it was the antidepressiva who make all pip tobaccos taste bad for me...

Problem with HU tobaccoo line ist their 100gram tins- too much.......
they not have dark mild maty, dark slight fruit bready tobacco on their 50 gram tins? medium nic hit...
Yeah the Samual Gawith 19792 muaaaahahaha the tobacco of death high nic, no please dumb joke....

I like high nic hit tobacco too, irish flake or something....but only one tobacco. The others should medium in nicotine I will buy three tobaccos this week..... (have ordered 3 estate pipes).....

How does the Mc Baren HH Old Dark Fired taste or the Boid Kentucky?
Rattrays Marlin Flake is a good one.
Irish Flake
Then the last third tobacco should be mild dark malty, bready, slight dark fruit medium nic hit...

The most virginias are hay citrus that taste good but I like it more mild molasse bready-malty......not bitter coffee, not bitter chocolate/cocoa...not easy....hmmmmm...

I find (when I remind 5 years back) the Peterson (exept irish flake) and Dunhills are full with chemicals...the Rattrays and HU tobaccos not so.....

What comes up in my mind: DTM Mellow Mallard?

marcopolo

HH ODF and BK are about a million miles away from a 'malty' Virginia. You are getting increasingly robust in every way with those. For a daily, or for someone just jumping back into it with health issues, that is a couple notches up the strength ladder. I do like 'em both, however.

 

[Columbo]

Just a thought. But have you considered easing back into the piping with something simple, easy and bulletproof, like Orlik GS?

That, and the other one that is almost impossible to not like is good old Escudo.

Sometimes a good easy sparring partner is helpful before jumping into the ring with the big boys if you're out of condition.

Once you have your sea legs back, you can dive better at the fancy and more potent blends.

Again, just something to consider.

 

[marcopolo]

I like Columbo...(and the TV show) hahaha, yes it is interesting the different taste people have, often on pipe tobacco reviews , the taste of people form uk or us ar often different than in europe (germany) your read often different tastes on same tobacco
an very individul thing.........or the pipe manufacture make the mixture different for different countries....

I have a sparring partner a good tip for you gentlemens here when smoke strong nic pipe tobaccos:
10 minute before smoking eat 1-2 slices of Dextrose it works wonders and drink mild black tea . A full stomach and Dextrose are my secret tip to smoke high nic blends.

 

[Hirsute]

If you're interested in MacBaren Old Dark Fired and Bold Kentucky, I'd recommend that you try Old Dark Fired first. Bold Kentucky is basically a similar blend with much more kentucky in it and it's much stronger flavored and higher in nicotine. So, if you like ODF, give BK a try; but if you don't like ODF, stay away from BK. You might also consider MacBaren HH Burley Flake, or Scottish Flake (aka Mixture Flake). I think either of those will be more up your alley with a malty bready note.

Other thoughts:
4th Generation/Erik Stokkebye 1931
Wessex Brigade Campaign Dark Flake or Brown Virginia Flake
Astley's No. 88 Dark Matured Virginia
Fribourg & Treyer Vintage Flake

 

[Columbo]

I like Columbo...(and the TV show) hahaha, yes it is interesting the different taste people have, often on pipe tobacco reviews , the taste of people form uk or us ar often different than in europe (germany) your read often different tastes on same tobacco
an very individul thing.........or the pipe manufacture make the mixture different for different countries....

Truer words never spoken.

Take most of the written blend reviews with a grain of salt. Many pipe smokers in those reviews don't know how to gently caress a Danish or American OTC, drawing them up like a Pittsburgh blast furnace. The time of day, how many bowls a day, accompanying beverages, the pipe selection, are you filtering (and where you are, I presume you are), they are all factors, too.

I'm a daily piper. So 6-9 bowls of HH BK all afternoon isn't going to work for me. Not in an unfiltered large pot. Too much. But I still like it.

My suggestion to ease into it was just that.

 

[marcopolo]

The Golden Orlik tobacco taste good, but too much of citrus.......

one benefit of those higher nic blends are,when smoke before sleep you get relax and tired.......
maybe not for all people but it happens often to people.....sorry for my typing errors in the post above....

I smoke one tobacco a day and next day different pipe with different tobacco, so I will buy three estate pipes this week.
The plan is use one pipe a day, different pipe each other day....so each pipe can rest 3-4 days before I smoke it again...
and use always the same tobacco in same pipe.

To prevent that they taste bad again........this is my plan....
My experice is, pipe smoking is best after evening dinner, strong nic blends use 1-2 slices of Dextrose before , trink mild black tea when you smoke and you should not have any problems.

The other thing with orientals tobaccos is, for me, they are to sour.... Dunhill EMP or something very sour....I not like that, but tha MC Baren HH Latakia blend was good slight sweet Latakia, but smoke Latakia 1-2 times a week can make your taste dull........so I prevent Latakia today.

It comes now in my mind:
DTM Mellow Mallard
HH Burley Flake
Solani 656 ? when it not has much bitter cocoa taste.....
maybe the Orlik Club Mixture......

cocoa like the Dunhill Dark Flake, for me it was too much bitter cocoa.......

example of bad chemical taste (5 years before): the Dunhill Royal Yacht, can not explain what this was...I had smoked gas, chemicals and more ......ufffff...........no thank you...this tobacco must be full with ethylacetat or something of these chemicals...

 

[Columbo]

If all you want is a great big old-time nicotine beatdown with no courtesies, then here in the States I'd just hand you a tub of Old Joe Krantz. Nothing fancy or complex, just some old school nicotine.

Unfortunately, I don't think they sell it over there.

 

[CapnCrunch]

Old Gowrie tastes bready and malty to me. Its sibling Marlin Flake is sweeter.

 

[marcopolo]

Hirsute, thank you very much, but these tobaccos are not selling to Germany...Sometimes I thinking I live in a socialist country, so sad....

I have a jarr here of the original Dunhill Dark Flake here it is 5 years old, open it, it smells of good chocolate but with a big bad smell of gas/alcohol....it smelling like cheap nestle cherry pralines alcohol (weingeist) or something....
This is it this chemical gas, alcohol ethyl or somewhat I not like in tobaccos I have little bit sensitive taste/tonque..

nobody knows the Mellow Mallard tobacco?
a good thing is here is a good cigar shop here (in germany) get three pipe tobacco samples for free wehn you buy tobacco there.....a great thing for testing new tobacco first in a clay pipe.....

HH Burley Flake...
Solani 656

HU tobacco aus dem Krater No. 5 maybe......
DTM The malthouse? DTM are good tobaccos , but there are some who taset good but in the middle of the pipe bowl, the natural tobacco aroma is gone and you taste cigarettes....

Old Gowrie is good, a little bit too sweet and to light for me. I must use deep drag to taste virginia sweetness it is too light.
Another problem with the samuel gawith Flakes is, they need too much fast puffing and relights. For me it is not possible to smoke it relax drag minute after minute....I must puffing fast or the tobacco light goes out....

 

[Columbo]

Hirsute, thank you very much, but these tobaccos are not selling to Germany...Sometimes I thinking I live in a socialist country, so sad....

I have a jarr here of the original Dunhill Dark Flake here it is 5 years old, open it, it smells of good chocolate but with a big bad smell of gas/alcohol....it smelling like cheap nestle cherry pralines alcohol (weingeist) or something....
This is it this chemical gas, alcohol ethyl or somewhat I not like in tobaccos I have little bit sensitive taste/tonque..

nobody knows the Mellow Mallard tobacco?
a good thing is here is a good cigar shop here (in germany) get three pipe tobacco samples for free wehn you buy tobacco there.....a great thing for testing new tobacco first in a clay pipe.....

HH Burley Flake...
Solani 656

HU tobacco aus dem Krater No. 5 maybe......
DTM The malthouse? DTM are good tobaccos , but there are some who taset good but in the middle of the pipe bowl, the natural tobacco aroma is gone and you taste cigarettes....

Old Gowrie is good, a little bit too sweet and to light for me. I must use deep drag to taste virginia sweetness it is too light.
Another problem with the samuel gawith Flakes is, they need too much fast puffing and relights. For me it is not possible to smoke it relax drag minute after minute....I must puffing fast or the tobacco light goes out....

I’m familiar with The Mallard, but have never smoked it personally. That’s more of a straight, clean VA.

If that’s what you’re after, and you’re already naming Mac Baren HH blends, then another one to look at is their HH Pure Virginia, which is a similar hot pressed flake.

Not too malty, though.

 

[marcopolo]

I think the HU tobacco Red Fox 50gram tin will be the right....
So when I buy this week: Markin Flake, HU tobacco Red Fox and Irish Flake for late in the evening falling relaxed asleep...
I will have a good sort of tobaccos to begin again with pipe smoking.

Then I get three free samples form the shop for further testing....it's like christmas for me, hahahaha....
I can remind (5 years ago) I was very tired and little bit hypnotized after snoking 20 minutes of Nightcap.......but the room note is harsh........it is like you are sitting near the oily Locomotive....

I like tobaccos late in the evening who make relaxed and little bit tired, maybe those higher nic blends, it is like magic, can not explain this. It is like you watching these magical movies like Sherlock with Cumberbatch (The abdominable Bride) or so....you are not watching it during the smoke, you are the movie...a strange thing.
Hope that my blood pressure will not raise up like cigarette, cigarette with low nicotine too, not works for me.

Pipe smoking is different. I hope I have a great pipe restart.
Now I go sleep, goo dnight and thank you all for that very happy writing here.....it was funny.

Take care of yourself
God bless you - good night

marcopolo

 

[RookieGuy]

If it's the Peterson Irish Flake, that's a great one. I sadly can't comment to much on taste, because when I'm smoking it, it's when I need a mouth-feel more than a particular flavor. But a rich, full, satisfying smoke capable of settling a Thanksgiving dinner at someone's grandmother's house.