Nut oils in soap

[duck dive steve]

Hi all
Been making soap over the last couple of weeks with a view to turning it in to a commercial venture. I will post a blog thread at some point let you know how were getting but will pm a mod first to make sure I'm not breaking any rules by getting free advertising or anything like that.
My question is nut oils are quite common in soaps and we've had good results with them. Does this create any problems with nut allergies as nut oils must be used in some fairly well know soaps. Is the nut oil neutralised In the reaction? Or does it stay in the soap so it would be worth avoiding nut oils all together? Does anyone have any knowledge of this?
Also when we get something were happy with and we've done some testing there will be some free samples available if there are any willing (brave) guinea pigs out there?

 

[insomniac]

I'm always up for testing soaps.

That being said, I have no knowledge of any production soaps that currently use tree nut oils. I have heard that TFS out of Italy is planning on a soap using hazelnut oil but I'm not sure if it's still in planning stages.

 

[Deacon Frank]

I haven't used any soaps that contain (tree) nut oil. The closest I've seen is sunflower seed oil in Pre de Provence...most of the common "nut" oils actually come from beans (peanut, soy, etc). I'd imagine that nut oils, if completely saponified, would not be a problem for those with allergies...but I wouldn't bet the farm on that. The best thing to do would be to put a warning on the soap and in its catalog/website description and let folks try it out for themselves.

 

[mblakele]

TOBS Jermyn lists sweet almond oil in the ingredients, and so does D.R. Harris almond, and Fiori and Frutti. Cella seems to only use an almond fragrance.

I would guess that the almond oil is in these soaps, but I am not sure.

 

[Tonka]

sounds like a good idea, nut oil's are very luxurious.

 

[duck dive steve]

I think some brands do. Some creams I've bought have irritated my skin. The last one to do it was Truefitt and Hill's Lavender which I'm gutted about. EJ sea buckthorn positively set my skin on fire might as well have been acid. Tried two samples the other day. One with hazel nut oil was fine one with almond oil stung a bit. Thats what makes me think its quite a common ingredient in shaving soaps and creams.

 

[kingfisher]

Probably the benfits of nut oils are from the oil in the unsaponified form. So a soapmaker might purposely put too much in, so that some remains unsaponified, for the moisturizing qualities, for example. That's called "superfatting." But if you superfat the oil, then people who are allergic to it might have a severe reaction to it.

 

[Barbiere di Figaro]

I'm always up for testing soaps.

That being said, I have no knowledge of any production soaps that currently use tree nut oils. I have heard that TFS out of Italy is planning on a soap using hazelnut oil but I'm not sure if it's still in planning stages.

Their soap with hazelnut oil, Cuore di Lavanda, is the one you must mean. It is available already. The hazelnut oil is what makes it different from other TFS soaps and especially suited for sensitive skin ("pelli sensibili")

I am not sure if they plan on using the hazelnut oil in other scents. This one is with a light lavender scent.

Bye,

Eric

 

[Toddy]

Many soaps contain nut oils, most commonly coconut and almond. All ingredients must be listed so the purchaser can check. Its also a good idea to offer a soap without nut oils as an alternative.

 

[john parker]

Seems like it might be a good idea, liability-wise and depending on the nut oil you have in mind, to consult an allergist.

 

[thefirestationisonfire]

I know this is the shaving "soaps" sub-forum but my Jack Black's shaving cream has macadamia nut oil in it.

 

[duck dive steve]

Cheers for the replies all input is appreciated . I think consulting an allergist is a very good idea will do. We will do a variety of soaps. We've been using natural products but synthetic products are always an option. We really need to experiment with them see what results they give.

 

[bald1]

I'm very allergic to almonds and brazil nuts, and must check ingredients as well as ask at restaurants (hate their use of almond paste as a thickener). Accordingly I've avoided any creams /soaps that have anything to do with almonds.

 

[BentonClay]

For those with serious nut allergies, it's such a serious issue they would probably avoid the risk of contact with even saponified nut oils. For the rest of us, bring on the luxurious lather! Nut oils are wonderful! (Just label carefully...)

 

[Fortitudo Dei]

Many soaps contain nut oils, most commonly coconut and almond...

Just to note that coconut is not a true nut but a drupe (a class of fruit). In saying that, people can still be allergic to it but if so they will likely already be aware of this as coconut oil has been a staple ingredient in almost ALL commercially made soap (excluding true Castile / Marseille style soaps) for over 100 years.

 

[BentonClay]

Just to note that coconut is not a true nut but a drupe (a class of fruit). In saying that, people can still be allergic to it but if so they will likely already be aware of this as coconut oil has been a staple ingredient in almost ALL commercially made soap (excluding true Castile / Marseille style soaps) for over 100 years.

And ironically the lauric acid which is a key constituent of coconut oil seems to be responsible for certain types of shaving irritation. I've noticed a trend among especially artisan soapmakers to stear clear of coconut in favour of substitutes for that very reason.

 

[petr]

Their soap with hazelnut oil, Cuore di Lavanda, is the one you must mean. It is available already. The hazelnut oil is what makes it different from other TFS soaps and especially suited for sensitive skin ("pelli sensibili")

I am not sure if they plan on using the hazelnut oil in other scents. This one is with a light lavender scent.

Bye,

Eric

What are the benefits of hazlenut oil in a shave soap?

 

[Barbiere di Figaro]

What are the benefits of hazlenut oil in a shave soap?

Hi Petr,

I know that TFS uses the hazelnut oil especially for it's nourishing and moisturizing effects.

When I search for it, I can find the following:

Hazelnut oil is well known to penetrate the skin quickly, it is slightly astringent and great for use on oily skin or conditions such as acne. It can tone, tighten and nourish the skin helping to maintain firmness and elasticity. Hazelnut oil is said to help straighten capillaries and so may be useful against thread veins and stimulate circulation. The Hazelnut plant probably originated in Greece and Hazelnut oil has one of the highest levels of oleic acid (75 ? 80 per cent), higher than both olive and almond oil and also contains around 18 per cent linoleic acid. Hazelnut oil is great as a face or body massage oil and can be used as a full base oil or blended with other carrier oils.

Bye,

Eric​

 

[duck dive steve]

Were gonna try apricot oil instead see if it effects the soap. If that ok no more nut problems. We'll probably still do a hazel nut soap just label it as such. Cheers for the responses all very helpful.

 

[petr]

Hi Petr,

I know that TFS uses the hazelnut oil especially for it's nourishing and moisturizing effects.

When I search for it, I can find the following:

Hazelnut oil is well known to penetrate the skin quickly, it is slightly astringent and great for use on oily skin or conditions such as acne. It can tone, tighten and nourish the skin helping to maintain firmness and elasticity. Hazelnut oil is said to help straighten capillaries and so may be useful against thread veins and stimulate circulation. The Hazelnut plant probably originated in Greece and Hazelnut oil has one of the highest levels of oleic acid (75 ? 80 per cent), higher than both olive and almond oil and also contains around 18 per cent linoleic acid. Hazelnut oil is great as a face or body massage oil and can be used as a full base oil or blended with other carrier oils.

Bye,

Eric​

Eric ... is there a duro in the lavender with hazlenut oil ... or just the creama?