My Head Wants A Cadet But My Heart Wants A Fatip

[mjclark]

I'm skimming my ebay profits to get a Fatip Piccolo but have now found a UK website selling the Cadet/Pearl which is cheaper, better made and gets better reviews.
Even though on paper the Cadet is clearly the best choice, it just doesn't seem to have the pizazz or class of the Fatip for me and I'm definitely still leaning towards buying the Piccolo.
Any thoughts on this from other OC devotees?

 

[Richie]

I got a Chrome Fatip Grande that I used today with a Gillette 7 0'Clock Yellow. I put a Parker 91R handle on it for better balance and I also use a Parker 98R handle on it as well.

Down the road (maybe for Fathers Day) I'm going to get the Cadet Robusto, I already have the Cadet Santa Fe TTO and I like it a lot, it's well built. There's a big thread on here that deals with using different handles on different Fatips with lots of great pictures. That in itself might help you to decide.

.....in other words, buy them both if you can, you won't go wrong.

 

[coolbus18]

Hiya! I have a FaTip and a Cadet?RR also. I prefer the FaTip with a Weber handle. And---drum roll please---here's the link for you:http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php/300217-Joris-Fatip-lovers-reviews-and-pics-thread!

 

[chilliman64]

just buy them both

 

[SiBurning]

just buy them both

Naturally! But that just begs the question...

Which one to buy first?

I'd say go with your heart. After you have one, your head will make a more rational decision. If you start with the one your head wants, you know in your heart you'll end up with both.

Well, you'll probably end up with both anyway, but at least my way it'll be easier to rationalize it.

 

[TXFirefighter10]

Fatip!!!!

 

[DrAwkward]

Neither -- buy a Joris!

 

[retrolike]

Why do you say the Cadet is better made?

 

[mastershake]

fatip i own both i prefer the fatip myself but with a heavier handle.

 

[alex2363]

Follow your heart..................Fatip

 

[mjclark]

After being greatly persuaded by this and other threads, my newly requested Fathers Day present arrived early:

 

[coolbus18]

After being greatly persuaded by this and other threads, my newly requested Fathers Day present arrived early:

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+1 enjoy!!

 

[DrAwkward]

Well? We need a report! How does it shave? What blade, soap, cream, brush, AS will you use?

 

[Mad Man]

Fatip Grande is my Monday shaver - (don't shave on a Sunday). It's OC design cleans up the growth easily.

I've got a hankering to try a Cadet OC too though...

 

[alex2363]

After being greatly persuaded by this and other threads, my newly requested Fathers Day present arrived early:

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Now you are a official member of the Fatip/Joris lovers gang.....

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php/300217-Joris-Fatip-lovers-reviews-and-pics

 

[alex2363]

fatip i own both i prefer the fatip myself but with a heavier handle.

Hiya! I have a FaTip and a Cadet?RR also. I prefer the FaTip with a Weber handle. And---drum roll please---here's the link for you:http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php/300217-Joris-Fatip-lovers-reviews-and-pics-thread!

I got a Chrome Fatip Grande that I used today with a Gillette 7 0'Clock Yellow. I put a Parker 91R handle on it for better balance and I also use a Parker 98R handle on it as well.

Down the road (maybe for Fathers Day) I'm going to get the Cadet Robusto, I already have the Cadet Santa Fe TTO and I like it a lot, it's well built. There's a big thread on here that deals with using different handles on different Fatips with lots of great pictures. That in itself might help you to decide.

.....in other words, buy them both if you can, you won't go wrong.

here it is
http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showth...-and-handle-name-thread-post-all-here!!?p=520

Note: These listings will change daily, see end of thread for updated list as of June/15/2013...


1) Fatip Grande Nickel :
Do fits : 1) Tradere,2) Edwin Jagger DE8, 3) Gillette Fat Tech handle, 4) Gillette New Comb, 5) Weber Bulldog, 6) Weber classic, 7) UFO-Godzilla 8) Parker 91r
9) Parker 48r, 11) Ikon Bulldog ( some members say it fits), 12) Gillette Old OC 1909 ABC Handle, 13) UFO Goliath Handle, 14) 7o'clock OC Handle(Made In England), 15) UFO/Kaiser, 16) SABI Fat Handle, 17) GS1 Handle,18) Weber classic (DLC version),19) SABI/T-1,20)Griest stainless & 360 brass handle, 21) Ikon OSS
Do not fit :Ikon Bulldog, Muelle R41,Weber bulldog and tradere (1st release)
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2) Fatip Piccolo :
Do fit: 1) Weber Bulldog handle, 2) Tradere, 3) Ikon OSS , 4) UFO Kaiser, 5) Feather AS D1, 6) Gilette New Fat Handle, 7) Gillette Fat Tech Handle, 8) Parker 98R, ---
9) IKON Bulldog *( some say it dont fit), 10) UFO-Godzilla, 11) Edwin Jagger DE89, 12) Gillette 7'oclock (GB), 13) Gillette New OC LC ball end gold plated (GB), 14) Gillette New OC LC ball end Sheffield/Laurel (GB), 15) Gillette Old OC ball end silver plated (US), 16) Gillette Old OC short travel handle (US), 17) Gillette Tech fat handle (GB), 18) Gillette Tech slim handle (fat alike) (GB), 19) Gillette Tech straight aluminium, 20) IKon Bulldog handle -( fits, but loose until the final turn), 21) Lord L6 , 22) Mercur 985CL (2 piece travel), 23) Mühle R41 2011, 24) Tradere, 25) Sabi Fat handle, 26) GS1 handle, 27) Merkur 46c

Do not fit: 1) Mariner long handle, 2) R41 Grande handle, 3)Ikon Bulldog, 4) EJ DE89, 5) Gillette New OC LC ball end silver plated (GB), 6) Gillette Tech ball end aluminum, 7) Gillette Tech ball end brass/nickel, 8) Gillette Tech black bake-lite , 9) Griest stainless & 360 brass handles

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3) Fatip Grande Chrome :

Do fit: 1)Bob Razor Works Deluxe XL, 2) Weber Bulldog, 3) *Ikon Bulldog(some say it wont fit)*, 4) Tradere (many members say it fits), 6) UFO-Godzilla, 7) 7 o'clock,
8) Gillette New OC, 9) LC ball end gold plated (GB), 10) Gillette Old OC ball end silver plated (US), 11) Gillette Old OC short travel handle (US), 12) Gillette Tech slim handle (fat alike) (GB),
13) Gillette Tech straight aluminum, 14) Lord L6 , 15) Mercur 985CL (2 piece travel handle), 16) Parker 98R, 17) BRW Bull Mastiff Deluxe - (Fits. Starts loose, but tightens up ), 18) 98R Heavy Duty Premium Barber-pole, 19)SABI Fat Handle, 20) GS1 handle, 21) Ikon OSS handle,22) ATT/Atlas Handle,23)UFO Kaiser Short (fits Short as well as standard length Kaiser handle),24) Griest stainless & 360 brass handles, 25) Durham Duplex,25) Ikon OSS, 26) Merkur 46c. 27) Matador Toro Mastiff,. 28)Old Type Ivory Soap handle, 29)NEW type LC, Empire set Handle,30) Aluminum Tech handle

Do not fit : 1)Tradere Handle(on some, many do fit, 2)Edwin Jagger Bulbous Chrome handle,3)Canadian Thin Handle Old Type,4) 1940 Bakelite Tech.5)
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4) Fatip Grande Gold :

Do fit : 1) Feather AS, 2) BRW Bull Mastiff Deluxe / Fits. Starts loose, but tightens up sufficiently, 3)UFO-Godzilla, 4) Sabi fat handle, 5) Gs1, 6) Griest stainless & 360 brass handles, 7) Ikon OSS

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***Handle and FATIP Razor specs Section***:


Razor Specs:

1) Fatip Grande Nickel: Handle length 77 mm/ total length 85 mm/ WT 65 g/ ( Thread 4.35)
2) Fatip Piccolo : Handle length 70 mm/ WT 72 g/ Heavier than others
3) Fatip Grande Chrome : Handle length 77 mm/ total length 85 mm/ WT 65 g/ ( Thread measure 4.38mm)-Screw: 4.36 MM width : 14.05mm length
4) Fatip Grande Gold : Handle length 77 mm/ total length 85 mm/ WT 65 g/


HANDLES SPECS:


1) Tradere ( head 4.80, WT 66 gm)
2) Edwin Jagger DE89 ( threads 4.89mm)- whole razor Weight = 76g
3) Gillette Fat Tech handle
4) Gillette New Comb- Gillette Bar Handle/SC New =WT 20.4/ - Gillette Ball Handle /LC New = WT 24.7
5) Weber Bulldog (needs 2 extra turns for fit), 2.4 ounces / 3 inch long /
6) Weber Classic- wt 58 gms ........3-7/8" in length (9.8 cm)
6) Weber 'New' Classic -wt 76 gms
7) Ikon Bulldog,
8) Ikon OSS [head 4.85- wt 100 gms - 95mm long - 12.25mm diameter] (works but is loose until the final turn) ,
9) UFO Kaiser (polished SS, 100mm lg, 13mm diameter, 91 grams wt)
10) Mariner long handle razor weighs in at 2.4 oz . The handle is 3" long.

11) R41 Grande handle ( whole razor WT 35.5)
12) Bob Razor Works Deluxe XL,
13) Feather AS. ( whole razor Wt 90 gms / 3 1/2 in long)

14) UFO-Godzilla (316L Stainless Steel. 85 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber. 103 gr weight.

Thread is M5x0.8.The neck ends to 8.5 mm)
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15) UFO Goliath XL- 316L Stainless Steel. 100 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber. 123 gr weight./Red Bronze. 100 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber. ??? gr weight (pending)./Thread is M5x0.8. 16) Heavy Duty Premium Barber-pole handle (89 gm).
17) lord 16
18) LC ball end gold plated (GB)
18) Gillette Old OC ball end silver plated (US),
19) Gillette Old OC short travel handle (US),

20) Gillette Tech slim handle (fat alike) (GB),
21) Gillette Tech straight aluminum,
22) Mercur 985CL (2 piece travel handle),
23) Parker 98R ( 4" handle and weighs 3 oz. whole razor wt)


24) Parker 91r (handle length 99mm, weight 80g (head+handle)
25) Parker 48R (handle length 91 mm, weight 96g (head+handle)
26) BRW Bull Mastiff Deluxe XL- (93 grams/ 96mm long, 13mm diameter on the main handle and 15mm diameter on the magnetic knob on the end.)
27) UFO Goliath - 316L Stainless Steel. 85 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber./ 103 gr weight.Red Bronze. 85 mm long./ 15/15 mm caliber./ 115 gr weight/thread is M5x0.8

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28) Gillette 7'oclock (GB)
29) Gillette New OC LC ball end gold plated (GB)

30) Gillette New OC LC ball end Sheffield/Laurel (GB)
31) Gillette Old OC ball end silver plated (US)
32) Gillette Old OC short travel handle (US)
33) Gillette Tech fat handle (GB)
34) Gillette Tech slim handle (fat alike) (GB)
35) Gillette Tech straight aluminium
36) iKon Bulldog handle
37) Lord L6
38) ATT/Atlas handle- Whole razor weighs in at 95 grams, total length is 3 1/4" while the handle is 3" long, 303 Stainless steel
39)Parker 98R Heavy Duty Premium Barberpole Whole razor Length: 10.8 cm Weight: 121g
40)Sabi fat handle - 3 1/4 in long, wt 2.5 oz

41) GS1 - 3 1/2 inches long, 1/2 inch in diameter and weighs in at 80 grams. Where the handle meets the head is 8.5mm and should fit most razor heads as the threads are M5x0.8.
42) SABI /T-1- 4 inches with the head
43)Griest stainless & 360 brass handles-3in long, 5/8th in. diameter and 111 grams in weight.
44) Durham Duplex
45) Ikon OSS
46) Merkur 46c​

 

[mjclark]

Well? We need a report! How does it shave? What blade, soap, cream, brush, AS will you use?

Razor: FaTip Piccolo (stock handle)
Blade: 7 O'Clock Indian Green
Brush: Kucci Kukui pure badger
Lather: Erasmic cream+Ivory soap+glycerin
AS: Alum+ Avon Pro Sport splash+ LaCroix Nuit balm
Cold water shave, bowl lathering.



As well as being the closest, smoothest shave I've ever had, it's the first truly irritation free shave I've had in 30 years!

My small hands actually enjoyed the stock handle but I'm gonna try it with others as recommended.
Ironically, I did think about buying a Cadet this morning just for the handle, and I probably will end up with both razors, but the FaTip has truly blown me away- I didn't know shaving could be like this

I've actually also just bought a Pakistani stainless steel bulldog handle off ebay, so I'll let you know how it goes with that ...

 

[StuMcB]

Fatip. We know the chant, dont make me type it out now......

 

[mjclark]

Ha ha - my kids got me a Pearl SS-04 aka Cadet for Xmas, so as everyone predicted I've ended up with both.
And the advice to follow your heart first, because if you follow your head you'll just be dissatisfied, has proved to be useful in other areas of life too.