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This might be better placed in the newbie forum, but since it relates directly to straight shaving, I plopped it here. Mods, feel free to move if you feel it necessary.

So I got my straights and strop in the mail, get up the nerve, and figured I'd give a few practice strokes a try, and finish up with my DE. I took a long shower and prepped, built a beautiful lather and applied it to my face, held the razor in my dominant hand (right) reached up and over with my left hand to stretch the skin up - all exactly like you see in the guides Joel put up, or at other forums. I then ran into the snag: I couldn't see anything I was doing, because a hand and razor were in my way!

I tried tilting my head, angling my arm - all resulting in the fact that I could almost sort of see, but out of the corner of my eye, and I wear glasses, so that's a place the glasses don't cover, so I wasn't much better off. So there I am, face full of lather, running around the house (I just moved so many things are still in boxes) to find the box of bathroom stuff, to get my contact lenses, and try to put them in without getting lather or soap on my fingers or in my eyes. Good thing no one was home, or it might have been a contender for one of those home video shows. By that time the lather had started to dry out on my face, so I relathered and managed a few strokes, and even mirrored the same thing on my non dominant side using my left hand. But even with the contacts, I felt like there were a few spots I was flying blind - not something I want to do with a big old piece of razor sharp steel in my hand, right next to my face. :eek:

I realize that in the video/tutorial, Joel has long sideburns, so he really isn't starting his stroke till well below his ear. By the time I get to that lower point, I can see just fine. But how do you folks that don't have long sideburns see to shave up there? I'm thinking of going and getting one of those expandable shaving mirrors, just so I can work some sort of reflected mirror to mirror image to be able to handle that. But perhaps there's an easier way I'm just missing?
 
I wear glasses as well, and don't really remember having any issues.

I'm really not sure why your hand is in the way - it shouldn't be any higher than the bottom of your sideburns, which for me means my hand is only about the bottom of my glasses. But even so, all you have to do is lower your hand a bit - the razor's spine doesn't have to be perfectly level. Or tilt your head down so you can see over the top of your hand. Or just come in from the side, so your hand is down around the jawline - you don't have to use the same strokes as Joel. Lots of ways to tackle the issue, and in a few weeks you'll wonder how you ever got tripped up by this.
 
Perhaps that's it. I was going for a level, straight N-S stroke. Mostly to play it safe, because it was my first time out, and didn't totally feel comfortable shaving towards my ear. :smile:

I'll see what happens next time.
 
L

Lo'Tek

"But with the blast shield down I can't see a thing." "Your eyes deceive you. You need to learn to let go. Use the Force Luke."

No but seriously - this happens all the time with people with little tiny heads. :lol:

OK more seriously - you can put you arm over & above your brow, or behind your head.
 
OK more seriously - you can put you arm over & above your brow, or behind your head.

It's actually the hand that holds the razor that gets in the way. So that's what had me confused.

It was more comical than troubling, and me running around in a towel with lavender scented lather drying on my face looking for contacts was a good laugh, after the fact. :redface:
 
So I got my straights and strop in the mail, get up the nerve, and figured I'd give a few practice strokes a try, and finish up with my DE. I took a long shower and prepped, built a beautiful lather and applied it to my face, held the razor in my dominant hand (right) reached up and over with my left hand to stretch the skin up - all exactly like you see in the guides Joel put up, or at other forums. I then ran into the snag: I couldn't see anything I was doing, because a hand and razor were in my way!

That was exactly the first roadblock I ran into! I have since found that by turning my head and looking with the opposite side's eye I could just see enough to get started. Be sure to keep the head tilted and skin stretched at the same time you turn it to the side. Once past the first inch or so there is no problem seeing without quite so much contortion.

After some practice, a little bit of muscle memory helps to achieve the correct placement.
 
I've seen the same complaint from other new straight users, so you are not alone.

Yes, sometimes your view is obstructed and over a short time you will learn a few tricks or angles that will improve your view. It will still not be perfect, but as you become more comfortable with your razor you will find that you also become more comfortable with shaving without a clear view. I'm not so sure but that many could shave blindfolded if they wanted after a year or two. I know that sounds crazy to someone just starting, but you too will arrive at that point someday.
 
I'm not so sure but that many could shave blindfolded if they wanted after a year or two. I know that sounds crazy to someone just starting, but you too will arrive at that point someday.

I shaved in the dark after Hurricane Ike took out our power. Shave wasn't appreciably worse though it did take a few minutes longer.
 

Luc

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I always shaved with a mirror and I don't think I can do it without one... Today I tried shorter strokes and guesstimated where the blade, slowly, was going to land. It went well actually. I didn't a single thing but I was feeling it.
 
This is exactly the problem I am having today when I did my very first straight razor shave. I too wear glasses. I have astigmatism -- things look like a fuzzy blur, and near sightedness. Somehow, my hands couldn't position my new straight razor right. I have shorter sideburns than Joel in the pictures and movie. I'm right handed and I don't have really steady hands. Maybe it is from first-time nervousness. I started shaving just under my left sideburn using my right hand to hold the razor. I could feel it pulling on my whiskers. But I got scared that it would dig in to my skin and cut me, and my left eye couldn't see the blade position too well. Then I tried holding the razor in my left hand and shaving just under my right sideburn. Actually, that worked a little better! I could feel it shaving. And my right eye could see it better. Again I got scared that I would apply the blade wrong and cut myself. I feel like a klutz. My hands are pretty small and sometimes they shake.

I plan to review the shaving tutorial Joel did and look at the movies again as well. I will keep trying with the straight razor. Maybe I simply need more patience.

Is there anyone in the Greenbelt, Maryland area who can tutor me in person?
 
Well I see I am not alone.
I also wear glasses.
I have yet to put a blade to my face as I need to get my starter razor honed but I have been practicing holding the blade, adjusting the angle and making strokes and was having the same issues.
Thanks for the timely post Jeremiah and thanks to the forum for the helpful suggestions.
 
This is exactly the problem I am having today when I did my very first straight razor shave. I too wear glasses. I have astigmatism -- things look like a fuzzy blur, and near sightedness. Somehow, my hands couldn't position my new straight razor right. I have shorter sideburns than Joel in the pictures and movie. I'm right handed and I don't have really steady hands. Maybe it is from first-time nervousness. I started shaving just under my left sideburn using my right hand to hold the razor. I could feel it pulling on my whiskers. But I got scared that it would dig in to my skin and cut me, and my left eye couldn't see the blade position too well. Then I tried holding the razor in my left hand and shaving just under my right sideburn. Actually, that worked a little better! I could feel it shaving. And my right eye could see it better. Again I got scared that I would apply the blade wrong and cut myself. I feel like a klutz. My hands are pretty small and sometimes they shake.

I plan to review the shaving tutorial Joel did and look at the movies again as well. I will keep trying with the straight razor. Maybe I simply need more patience.

Is there anyone in the Greenbelt, Maryland area who can tutor me in person?

From my experiences helping people, the #1 component to getting a great shave is confidence.

I also could not see the razor on my face for the first month or so. But then I got used to the straight, turned my head a little and one day the razor appeared! I wear glasses too, so don't lose heart. It is possible to view the razor with glasses on. My glasses are really small too. Just have to turn your head to the left when shaving the right side of your face, and vice versa.

As for pulling, lower the angle of the straight and trust yourself.
 
L

Lo'Tek

I also wear glasses and let me tell you, don't let the bathroom get too steamy either.
 
Thanks for the advice everyone. I will give it another go and show more confidence and start to really practice. Fortunately it is a holiday weekend for me. I can begin to train myself not to rush nervously in the morning. I suspect I'm an urban rushtoworkaholic. Bob
 
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