I am totally new to natural stone honing and am a bit unsure why my coti has the BBW side? From what I've read and seen the coti can do it all, so why has it got a BBW side? What's the point? I'd like to hear from people who use a BBW and why. Speak to me Goose. Share your wealth of knowledge with this uber noob.
How often do you use the BBW side of your coti?
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I've used the "bottom side" of my natural combo a few times with great results. The thing with BBW is that it contains less garnets than the coticule side does, so that makes the BBW inherently slower. However, I have heard that a maxed-out BBW edge can compete with a maxed-out coti edge if you do it right...I don't think I maxed my edge out, but I still got a nice keen resulting edge..
I think just as with yellow side, BBW are varied and some work better than others. But I do like the feel of it with a somewhat thick slurry. I don't dilute like others do, i use it almost like a mud until it's easily popping hairs (more easily than off the chosera) which takes for me about 40-50 laps. Then I move to a slurry on the yellow coti and dilute that until it's passing HHT at 2 or 3. Then I usually finish with another stone, Escher typically.
But to more directly answer your question, BBW is certainly useful and I think it feels great to hone on.
But to more directly answer your question, BBW is certainly useful and I think it feels great to hone on.
When I go this route, I typically set the bevel on a Chosera 1k, then go through and dilute slurry on the BBW side until I'm just water. Then I flip it over and finish with 30-60 light strokes on my coti side under running water. You can get to the same point using either, but it is easier and faster to do it on the coti (there are threads on a "dilublue" or whatever it is called, if not here than on coticule.be that describe the difference between that and a dilucot). Someday I'll get around to trying those 30 on oil and see what happens.
I use it all the time, it makes for a great non-slip grip on my combo cotis! No seriously speaking I've been tempted to use it but can't honestly see any benefit when the coti is so close at hand.
I'm with ya.
If you don't use the BBW side then why did you spend (what I imagine would be more money) for nautral combos on your trip to Ardennes? I imagine you could have saved money and just bought slate backed cotis.
I use the BBW sid every time I hone because I feel it is just as good as the Coti side. I probably shave off BBW edges as much as I do coti edges. I only try to buy combo coti's for this exact reason.
I know I wanted a Veinette and it only comes as a natural combo. I guess I should try it, it wouldn't cost anything.
That's funny Rick! I think you will be pleasantly surprised by the edges get from it. Let us know how it works for you, if you don't mind.
Everytime with razors...intgerestingly enough there is a slight feel between the BBW/yellow coti side..as if they are have slightly different grits/textures (something like that, cant explain it)
if you're like me and dont know what BBW is,,,??? look on this site and do NOT google it. that is all.
good advice
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Same.
My combos were bought for the yellow side. The fact that they were a combo didn't influence the decision to buy them, that is just how LPB coti's come. I have tried the blue side, and it worked, but I didn't find it better than the yellow, so now I don't bother. Personally I start with a fast coticule, and finish on a slow one. That works for me.
I may one day decide to use the blue side for knives, but only because I don't want to wear away the yellow side.
I thought that the gray side was for stabylizing the coticule and was not ment to he used for honing.
In modern single layer stones that is true. The bottom is slate. But some stones are actually from the point where two different types of rock meet, and these are called natural combos.
Unless it came from TSS.
Even the glued combos are BBW under the Coti.
The "standard" combos are indeed glued slate floor tile.
Here is my natural combo coticule. I have never honed on the BBW side, but I have tried honing on its side. I did about 30 laps and flipped the stone over and did about another 30 laps. Very nice edge
This picture is pre lapped side, right now this side is perfectly flat and chamfered.
This picture is pre lapped side, right now this side is perfectly flat and chamfered.
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