dubl duck 5

Jeremydelagarza · Oct 25, 2013

Im trying to re-knot a dubl duck 5 and I need some help. so here are some pix of 2 diff lofts I dont have a measurement tool yet its in the mail on the way here. so the 1st pic is set lower than the 1st I put a simpson tulip next to give an idea of how tall it is.

also what is the best epoxy to use for this brush/

oh and i put a cork in it. what else can you suggest to do.

Jeremydelagarza · Oct 25, 2013

JaxJim · Oct 25, 2013

To my eye, Jeremy, I think the knot is set a bit too high in all photos, although it always comes down to personal preference. What are the specs on that knot, by the way? Once you have calipers and can provide measurements, there are plenty of experts here who I'm sure will weigh in with opinions. Good luck-- that's a great looking handle!

Jeremydelagarza · Oct 25, 2013

oh it might be set too high on all the photos I surely dont want a floppy brush. Ill just wait till it get the calipers in.

Jeremydelagarza · Oct 25, 2013

the knot is a 28/70 High density Silvertip.

KodiakAttack · Oct 25, 2013

Anything near 50mm loft I feel is perfect. YMMV though.

Jeremydelagarza · Oct 25, 2013

ok got my calipers in and this is set to 54mm is this too much loft. the knot is 28/70

and what epoxy is good for this handle. and what is the best way to go about setting it with the epoxy details please.

KodiakAttack · Oct 25, 2013

If it were mine.... I'd drop it to about 51 or 52. Then again, I face lather.

Loctite Epoxy seems to be a popular choice.

blzrfn · Oct 25, 2013

If it were me I would start at around 50mm with some silicone adhesive to temporarily set it. Use it for a few shaves and then use a couple quarters as spacers and try it again. I few millimeters difference in loft can turn a scrubby lather hog into a well balanced performer and then again into a floppy brush usable only for bowl lathering and paint strokes.

Big Jim · Oct 25, 2013

You started with a tall knot. There are 65 mm knots in that general size.

Personally, I like loft. Try setting it where it is with silicon and shave with it and see what you think of it.

You will need a pretty deep hole to get your 70 mm knot down to 50 mm installed.

FL shaver · Oct 26, 2013

I'd go 50mm or slightly more, too. Looking like a nice restore in the works there!

Jeremydelagarza · Oct 26, 2013

ok so 50mm for a 28mm knot sounds like its what everybody does. so with the epoxy do i fill it to the rim of the brush??

Lather · Oct 26, 2013

Jeremydelagarza said:
ok so 50mm for a 28mm knot sounds like its what everybody does. so with the epoxy do i fill it to the rim of the brush??

I put a couple light cuts in the knot base so that the epoxy has something to hold onto. Don't go too deep and damage the base.

Put just enough epoxy on the shelf and inside the rim. I use a toothpick. Basically, you don't want epoxy oozing out the handle and into the hair. Ask me how I know.

Sorry to confuse you but I think that 52 mm loft looks good on that brush but it is personal preference.

Good luck.

JaxJim · Oct 26, 2013

blzrfn said:
If it were me I would start at around 50mm with some silicone adhesive to temporarily set it. Use it for a few shaves and then use a couple quarters as spacers and try it again. I few millimeters difference in loft can turn a scrubby lather hog into a well balanced performer and then again into a floppy brush usable only for bowl lathering and paint strokes.

I agree with Dave. A few test runs should inform you of the loft you like best.

Good luck!

Snargle · Oct 26, 2013

Definitely don't fill the handle to the rim with epoxy. Once you have your loft selected, I would glue the cork (and spacers, if any) in place and let it set briefly so nothing moves around. Then a few more drops of epoxy should be all you need to permanently fix the knot in place. You don't want it to ooze out of the top, onto the outside of the handle or into the hairs.

Jeremydelagarza · Oct 26, 2013

Ok i went for it. The knot is set. I put 2 pennies in the very bottom to give some weight. The Handle seemed too Hollow and cheap before now with the little weight I hope it will fell better. We will see what happens tomorrow when i use it.

Jeremydelagarza · Oct 26, 2013

I think the knot is set. How do I know?? Just use it?? Or should I try and pull on the knot a bit or what? ? Thanks for all the help

Capslock · Oct 27, 2013

I wait 24 hours and just use it. Report back!

Jeremydelagarza · Oct 28, 2013

Here are some pix. one with the wee scott the other is an art of shaving silvertip 24/58 knot my knot is 28/52.5 I got some glue on the hairs but over all im happy with my 1st re-knot. I did 1 lather and it lost 5 hairs. Ill do another lather later today and see what happens. the bloom is nice.