Another new Oozuko Suita

[Woodash]

Oozuko Sunashi (without Su) Suita - Just received (not yet lapped and barely tested). Extremely hard and dense - weighs a ton. Appears to be extremely fine as well - moreso than my other Oozuko which is like honing on silk. Not easy to raise a slurry. I expect to use this with mejiro/koma nagura in the earlier stages, and then as the final, final finisher with light slurry or water.

 

[Joe Edson]

Nice! Where did you get that from?

 

[honed]

Seems like Oozuko is the new black around here
And rightfully so, since they obviously produce very nice edges!

 

[Woodash]

Nice! Where did you get that from?

Maxim.

 

[mainaman]

Seems like Oozuko is the new black around here
And rightfully so, since they obviously produce very nice edges!

The ones Maxim sells are specifically selected for razor.
That is why there pretty much 100% hit and never a miss.
Many of nakayamas that float around are not suitable for western razor, too soft to produce good edge. Of all nakayama I have owned only one is close to what my 3 Oozuko can offer. I am sure there are superb nakayama stones out there but due to popularity of the name they might be a lot harder to find, and certainly a lot more expensive.

 

[honed]

The ones Maxim sells are specifically selected for razor.
That is why there pretty much 100% hit and never a miss.
Many of nakayamas that float around are not suitable for western razor, too soft to produce good edge. Of all nakayama I have owned only one is close to what my 3 Oozuko can offer. I am sure there are superb nakayama stones out there but due to popularity of the name they might be a lot harder to find, and certainly a lot more expensive.

Basically, it's time to get me a Oozuko before prices move up
And Maxim is practically just around the corner.....

 

[sicknote]

another good shop with a nice guy who knows lots about hones is www.japan-messer-shop.de, dont know if they sell outside of germany but i got two really nice jnats from them. i asked for stones to sharpen razors and he picked them out. they werent on their homepage. click on "Japanische Natursteine".

 

[Woodash]

another good shop with a nice guy who knows lots about hones is www.japan-messer-shop.de, dont know if they sell outside of germany but i got two really nice jnats from them. i asked for stones to sharpen razors and he picked them out. they werent on their homepage. click on "Japanische Natursteine".

Wow. Looks like they have some really nice stones for approachable prices. Thanks for the tip!

 

[Disburden]

Maxim.

and the site is? lol

 

[mainaman]

and the site is? lol

http://japanesenaturalstones.com/

send him an e-mail though because a lot of the stuff he gets does not make it to the Online store.

 

[Disburden]

Very nice thank you!

 

[Woodash]

and the site is? lol

Very sorry that I missed your question. Not withholding anything; I just didn't think it was necessarily requisite information for the original post.

 

[Woodash]

Initial evaluation on this suita (FWIW...):

1. Incredibly hard, dense, and extremely fine. Slurry is essential; water does virtually nothing - though I have not yet spent much time working on water.
   Extremely smooth - it's almost like honing on glass, but with cutting power.
2. Extremely difficult to raise slurry (~200+ laps required to get even dilute slurry); however, only a very light slurry is needed. Using less water helps make a better slurry.
3. Moderately fast cutting speed on slurry with very little water; great sharpening ability - more than I imagined. For a stone this fine and smooth, the feedback is incredible, even with very dilute slurry - especially as it dries. The cutting power really surprised me for a stone this fine.
4. Takes moderately firm pressure very well (note: I initially used a TI C135 razor, but have since honed normal carbon steel).

My approach (thus far) with this hone:

• Hone on dilute slurry until pasty then dilute with 1 drop water as it dries (mod. firm pressure on razor is OK). Finish with ~light laps on pasty/dry slurry.
• Refresh slurry and repeat. Probe edge.
• Repeat the refresh up to ~4-6 times (as needed, probing edge often).
• Finish on slurry to paste.

The key to this hone is slurry with very little water. One drop is more than enough; do not dilute the slurry.
IMO, this is a wonderful hone; an incredible finisher....

 

[duderdo]

Initial evaluation on this suita (FWIW...):
Honing method

Thank you for posting your experience with this, I have a hard Shoubudani from Maxim and I've been playing around with it, the above method gave me the best results yet.

Although I probably did dilute mine more than it sounds like you did.

 

[Disburden]

Thanks,

Now I need an Oozuko stone to share with my Kiita and Escher stones.

 

[Woodash]

Thank you for posting your experience with this, I have a hard Shoubudani from Maxim and I've been playing around with it, the above method gave me the best results yet.

Although I probably did dilute mine more than it sounds like you did.

That's cool. Glad to hear it.

 

[sicknote]

i have pretty similar experiences with my oozuku like woodash.
but one more thing is. if i use my nakayama asagi before my oozuku i could use it just with water and it definatly give the edge the final "wow factor". dont know how to describe it better.