Shave Secret is a great shave oil. When I tried it as a base for lather, I found that the oil reduced the lather and the shave was better with only the oil. Now, I'm a double heretic! I use Shave Secret as a lubricant for my Panasonic Arc5 Shaver. It lubricates and eliminates heat build-up, and I love the clove smell. I've not noticed an downside from repeated use.