Rechecked. FOCS wobbles both sides for me.My FOCS wobbles on one side, but not the other.
No wobble on my SB Yaqi Slope.
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Rechecked. FOCS wobbles both sides for me.My FOCS wobbles on one side, but not the other.
The razor on the right in the photo is a Schöne which is supposedly made by Fatip. They're not made anymore I think, but you might find one. They are finished a bit better I believe. | |
If you want a Fatip with a very high quality finish and the look of jewelry various iterations are available for a price. Plisson-Joris. I need to find mine. I think this is a vendor's photograph. |
...If Fatips work for you, great.
If Fatips don't work for you, it is what it is. ...
Hi and welcome to B&B. According to some here you have now became part of the Fatip cultIt’s becoming quite commonplace here to read posts in various threads that all translate into, “ive tried the rest, give me Fatip or death.” Having now joined the FOCS Fanatics, I thought I would try to articulate my path from “there” to “here.”
I’ll keep it short - or try to. I returned to wet shaving from the Cart world maybe six months ago. Like all addicts, I promptly acquired a lot of razors and a ****-ton of blades. I bought a gold FOCS early on but put it aside so I could try all the expensive, fancy razors and highly touted blades.
I’ve been keeping a detailed journal and really have learned how to shave (face and neck only). As I type this, my Rex Konsul and Rocca 94 are selling on eBay, and a bunch more will follow. I’ve got about 150 wet shaves done since I came back (daily shaver typically). Today was the day I thought I had enough skill to go at it with the Fatip and a Wizamet blade.
Long story short, the ease and quality of today’s shave with no cuts, nicks, irritation or weepers was immediately pronounced superior by the alum block. I’m not qualified yet for BST, so, a bunch of really nice razors are headed for the “shave grave” (eBay) - bye Rockwell, bye Feather, bye Razorock, bye Muhle etc. All on account of a humble, cheap, brilliantly designed razor that has its quirks - but it works - and which I shirked until now for all the wrong reasons.
No comments about mileage - they’re cheap enough to buy and try. I’m smiling from ear-to-ear, with nothing but BBS skin in between.
It would be strange if you were measuring it on someone else's face.The only face on which I measure the quality of a razor is mine.
Ahem. Some?Hi and welcome to B&B. According to some here you have now became part of the Fatip cult
My point exactly.It would be strange if you were measuring it on someone else's face.
Thanks for the welcome, gents! I’m up for being ordained as long as it doesn’t leave any weepers or bleeders!It would be strange if you were measuring it on someone else's face.
Ahem. Some?
Of course he has now become a part of it. Call the High Priest to ordain him.
Seems to me like he was here to only open the can of worms.What happened to the OP (@D92)? Two posts on the forums and he's vanished?
Seems to me like he was here to only open the can of worms.
Definitely agree.
I never flat out claimed my unit was defective. At least that was not my intention. In my initial post I laid out my thought process and how I came to choose an open comb slant. I later shared that wobble observation which I thought would be interesting to people here that know and care way more about razors than I do. Perhaps it was new relevant information. But okay, seems it's nothing out of the ordinary then.The OP claims it is defective. That doesn't mean it is defective.
That was indeed my assumption. My Merkur 39C (the only other slant I worked with) is completely flat and straight after all. It's just oblique for that guillotine cutting action. Could you link me to any articles that explain the helical twist and how that would translate in a closer and/or more comfortable shave? I'm trying to wrap my head around this, so bare with me, but how does that helix, that curvature away from your face, not mess with your optimal shaving angle/pressure/etc that we're all so desperate in maintaining?your expectation seems to be based on a mistaken assumption that the slant should be in a straight diagonal line
I don't care about any brand per se. I was just interested in an open comb slant because of certain assumptions which I now understand to be incorrect.If @D92 still has any interest in Fatips, maybe he would have better results with a standard Grande model. Or the Testina Gentile.
Yeah I think that's also what's at play here. The FOCS exposure and gap is much larger than what I was used to from my trusty Merkur. It could very well be that my skin and beard type just don't like that.I experience many of the gripes mentioned above about close shave on the neck, etc. I believe it has to do mainly with blade exposure & gap.
Yep and once I give it another go I will be trying other, milder blades as well. I will report back if anything interesting comes out of thatAt this point I would suggest putting it aside for a few months.
I never flat out claimed my unit was defective. At least that was not my intention. In my initial post I laid out my thought process and how I came to choose an open comb slant. I later shared that wobble observation which I thought would be interesting to people here that know and care way more about razors than I do. Perhaps it was new relevant information. But okay, seems it's nothing out of the ordinary then.
Ultimately I'm merely investigating what might've gone wrong in my journey, instead of simply shrugging and leaving it at 'oh well, my mileage varied'. Which is always true to a certain extent, but I believe that addage is more justified in cases where a reviewer's advice was blindly taken at face value without taking one's own skin/beard/prep situation into account.
That was indeed my assumption. My Merkur 39C (the only other slant I worked with) is completely flat and straight after all. It's just oblique for that guillotine cutting action. Could you link me to any articles that explain the helical twist and how that would translate in a closer and/or more comfortable shave? I'm trying to wrap my head around this, so bare with me, but how does that helix, that curvature away from your face, not mess with your optimal shaving angle/pressure/etc that we're all so desperate in maintaining?
I don't care about any brand per se. I was just interested in an open comb slant because of certain assumptions which I now understand to be incorrect.
Yeah I think that's also what's at play here. The FOCS exposure and gap is much larger than what I was used to from my trusty Merkur. It could very well be that my skin and beard type just don't like that.
Yep and once I give it another go I will be trying other, milder blades as well. I will report back if anything interesting comes out of that
You would be better posting this in the Shave Of The Day (SOTD) thread. Or maybe start a Journal. More people will see it that wayFOCS quick, amazing, BBS shave today! New Wizamet blade, Rockwell shave oil, Proraso pre-shave, Holy Black shave soap - two quick passes - WTG AGT. No blood and no irritation. I noticed that the Wizamet blade required no adjustment or alignment. I wonder if the FOCS posts were designed for Gillette tolerances? The Voskhod had more “slop” in the fit. I’m still in awe of how comfortable shaving is with my beloved Fatip crooked razor!