and at night???
Well, the same as with a sundial - you just strike a match!
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and at night???
errrr, ummm yes you will, one episode bare gills stuck a water tube right up he dot explaining how to hydrate from suspect water sources with no water purification available.
back to ferro and Mg, strikers to me always are lacking, made my own from tool steel, as you can not carry anything sharper than a butter knife here now days, and harvest Mg from a hot water heater sacrificial anode
I am also a member of Pyromaniacs Anonamouse
Mr Kool!I just smack two Jnats together to make sparks with Mojo.
So where does someone pick up this potassium permanganate?Not magnesium, but we learned a seriously cool trick from a bushcraft instructor when camping last month.
Take a small pinch of potassium permanganate, add a drop of glycercine or glycol (vape juice works great) and hey presto. Instant fire.
We have added a small tube of PP and some vape juice to the fire kit.
Good sources hereSo where does someone pick up this potassium permanganate?
Good sources here
potassium permanganate for sale | eBay - https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p3671980.m570.l1311&_nkw=potassium+permanganate&_sacat=0
This is good!
Survival Science: Potassium Permanganate and Vape fluid - Backcountry Survival Ltd - https://www.backcountrysurvival.co.uk/2018/07/13/survival-science-potassium-permanganate-and-vape-fluid/
Glycerine and Potassium Permanganate Fire:
- First, set up your tinder and kindling.
- Place a flat piece of cardboard or paper over this.
- Put about 10g of potassium permanganate on the paper.
- Add an equal amount of glycerine. You can also use antifreeze.
- It might take a few moments, but a bright purple flame should start.
Just the cheapest bottle of vape juice should do it. Also ordinary sugar works.Wow, cool video! One of the links says you can substitute anti-freeze, but the newer antifreeze brands are now being manufactured without propylene glycol?
Pretty cool stuff if ya ask me!Just the cheapest bottle of vape juice should do it. Also ordinary sugar works.
Sugar and Potassium Permanganate Fire:
- Mix equal parts of sugar and potassium permanganate
- Apply friction to the mixture by pushing on it with a wide, flat stick
- A fire should form quickly
Yeah, we were pretty impressed!Pretty cool stuff if ya ask me!
A useful addition to a fire kit.
Your local Pharmacy, Chemist shop or Drug Store, depending on your counties name for it, the shop that is, pool stores, pet stores. Potassium Permanganate was formerly known as ''Condy's Crystals" it can be used as a water purifier, no sticking the hose up ya dot Bare Gills, as a disinfectant and as a fake tanning solution << this is why a cautionary note is pertinent, it 'will' turn your skin brown !! It's a class 5 ... strong oxidizing agent, so in the art of pyromania treat it with a little caution, but not paranoia don't use metal container to store it.So where does someone pick up this potassium permanganate?
I've never got that to work, , but thats me, or it was not the right type of sugar as i keep saying to myself.Just the cheapest bottle of vape juice should do it. Also ordinary sugar works.
Sugar and Potassium Permanganate Fire:
- Mix equal parts of sugar and potassium permanganate
- Apply friction to the mixture by pushing on it with a wide, flat stick
- A fire should form quickly
So, back to magnesium, ferro or whatever they are made of, I bought a good brand name [so i thought] ferro rod, then scored another cheaper one at a miss marked price, at a camping shop no less. After saying nothing on this thread, i had to go start a fire, the cheap rod is fine looks the same as the last time i saw it 12 moons ago, the dear one is like a bleedin golf ball full of corrosion and ugly grey powder, funny thing is they both live next to each other in an old remington elec shaver box with all the other necessities to have fire in a survival situation stranded twenty minutes from the nearest McDonalds.Chaps, this thread is about commercially made magnesium fire starters, and simililar.
Let's keep the talk of improvised chemical incendiaries to ourselves, lest we end up on some watch list somewhere.
The cheap one might have had some coating applied to keep the oxidation at bay. I usually keep a layer of petroleum jelly on mine when it is in storage.So, back to magnesium, ferro or whatever they are made of, I bought a good brand name [so i thought] ferro rod, then scored another cheaper one at a miss marked price, at a camping shop no less. After saying nothing on this thread, i had to go start a fire, the cheap rod is fine looks the same as the last time i saw it 12 moons ago, the dear one is like a bleedin golf ball full of corrosion and ugly grey powder, funny thing is they both live next to each other in an old remington elec shaver box with all the other necessities to have fire in a survival situation stranded twenty minutes from the nearest McDonalds.
Good point, but Alas no ..... both get a hiding with a striker i made from tool steel with a curved throat for more face contact and no sideways slippage, and when they get used they get over used, I just have an addiction to making sparks and lots of them, i can't help it !!The cheap one might have had some coating applied to keep the oxidation at bay. I usually keep a layer of petroleum jelly on mine when it is in storage.
Funny. Real flint and steel is all I use anymore. Yes, I have Ferro rods in my kits, but I have zero problem with flint and steel.Oh heck no, they're not equal. The Chicom cheapie sold at walmart likely has little actual mag in it ...I have a really soft mag block/starter from a gun show that throws very flammable shavings and chips. And big, quality ferro rods are the way to go, IMO. Small ones aggravate.
Recently experimenting with same, jute tinder is a bit harder to catch than you think. Make it easier with a blaze of sparks.
Can a piece of Viking iron and a chunk of rock work? Yes. Is it easy? NO. Sparks are few and small.
Go easy with a good mag block and an even better ferro rod. (Skip the jute for cotton balls soaked in vaseline/wax, too).
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I always have a Bic tucked away somewhere. They're great until it's too cold for them to work or they get wet.I'm a part time pyromaniac myself. But I would rather pack 12 Bic lighters than leave room for that in my kit!