has any maker committed to the continued production of tallow shave soaps?
tallow shave soaps
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There's heaps, they're just mostly artisanal now.
For the remaining oldschoolers (the makers of Cella, Vitos, Arko & DR Harris) they're not going to come out and say "we're going to keep making tallow soap". They're just going to keep making it until at some potential unspecified point, they decide to stop.
For the remaining oldschoolers (the makers of Cella, Vitos, Arko & DR Harris) they're not going to come out and say "we're going to keep making tallow soap". They're just going to keep making it until at some potential unspecified point, they decide to stop.
Most shave soaps are probably made with tallow still, but the issue is the switchover from the usual triple milled brands you see talked about here. Probably the main one in that respect that is still tallow is D.R Harris. If Proraso ever brings back Valobra shave soap I would expect them to keep tallow too, they restarted the bath soap with the old recipe iirc with an unchanged list of ingredients.
What do you mean by "committed"?
All producers have the right to change with the times.
FWIW, I continue to enjoy DRH, Cella, Stirling, Arko, several others that use tallow in their formulations.
But anyone might change depending on their circumstances and management directives!
Chandu
I Waxed The Badger.
I suspect if the current "new" demand for tallow is sustained or grows, it's going to have the commercial soap makers moving off tallow and probably the artisans getting it from some local supplier one of the few places to get it. I like commercial tallow soaps but not so much the artisans. The artisan tallow seems to be a big part of the scent profile in some cases and I'm not a fan.
So animal fats and oils are being turned into jet fuels rather than petroleum is the "new" demand. eFining - https://uop.honeywell.com/en/industry-solutions/renewable-fuels/efining
"Honeywell UOP offers multiple routes to market using a variety of feedstocks, including Ecofining™ technology (utilizing fats, oils and greases), the recently launched ethanol to jet technology and UOP eFining using eMethanol from green hydrogen and recycled CO2. "
So animal fats and oils are being turned into jet fuels rather than petroleum is the "new" demand. eFining - https://uop.honeywell.com/en/industry-solutions/renewable-fuels/efining
"Honeywell UOP offers multiple routes to market using a variety of feedstocks, including Ecofining™ technology (utilizing fats, oils and greases), the recently launched ethanol to jet technology and UOP eFining using eMethanol from green hydrogen and recycled CO2. "
I bought a dozen sticks of Arko just in case.
LOL, I did the same thing.
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bmiller3230
All of Stirling's soaps are tallow based. They have both Beef and Mutton bases
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bmiller3230
and they smell a hell of a lot better than Arko...
Fendrihan has just introduced a “Signature Shave Glycerin and Tallow Shaving Soap”, so they seem to have the intent to keep tallow in at least one of their shaving soaps.
I can’t vouch for the product though, as it was just introduced a few weeks ago, but generally Fendrihan branded products are not too shabby.
B.
Arko comes to mind.
This thread inspired me to order something new (as if I need any help). I decided to try some DR Harris Marlborough. Price seems reasonable and the B&B has numerous favorable reviews.
You may want to try DR Harris’ Windsor and Arlington. Windsor is my favorite.
I too have been influenced by this post. I bought 5 sample soaps from Stirling.
Stirling soaps have produced the best lather I have ever experienced.
I too have been influenced by this post. I bought 5 sample soaps from Stirling.
Stirling soaps have produced the best lather I have ever experienced.
Chandu
I Waxed The Badger.
They lather nice. I need to get one in the den again, but this time it WILL be unscented.
I suspect Stirling and the other artisans will be able to get tallow. The airline fuel is going to hit the commercial tallow market "big tallow" LOL. So I could see large commercial soap producers finding another way forward. I don't see the Turk's voluntarily changing Arko unless Tallow simply cannot be gotten. I don't think the airline industry in Turkey is anthing like that in the US.
For me the bio fuels angle is just one more thing that makes tallow potentially less attractive to large soap makers. But remember too economics of the situation, subsidies, subsidies going bye bye any other number of factors could change this too.
On the whole, glad I was able to get several of you to buy some tallow. Mission accomplished. LOL. Someone should start a thread.
"Minutely Tangentially Related to Shaving News That Causes Me to Stock Up". In the thread we could have things like... "My friend saw a truck with some dodgy looking grinding wheels on it's way to a city where it is well known Gillette has a blade factory...so get those Nacets while they are still the ones ground on the good wheels".
+1! Great choice IMO!!
I received my first puck of D.R. Harris and have used it for three shaves thus far. It is a hard, dense soap. My guess is it will last a long while. As for the performance, so far it is very good. Lathers well and provides a slick cushion. I am going to have to rotate Williams, Mitchells and D.R. Harris to see how they compare. I use Williams on a regular basis and have done for years but since it is not being made anymore and Mitchells has gone tallow free, D.R. Harris may well be my best replacement choice.
Steve56
Ask me about shaving naked!
D.R. Harris is currently tallow based, and don’t forget Boellis Panama (croap), and of course sterling.
Crazy how tallow was added to soaps because it was cheap fat and now it's premium ingredient
I found it strange how Mitchellls wool fat all of a sudden was out of stock in a bunch of stores a while back and thought to myself “ this can’t be good” so I bought up what I could find which was only 3 pucks but then remembered that Kent is the exact same thing. Got my a bunch…
I don’t see tallow-based soaps going away anytime soon. It will be available as long as the beef industry continues, which we can all probably agree is not going away anytime soon. Whether or not artisans can get it at a reasonable cost in the future is another thing, and of course some of the current artisans we love may decide to just not make soaps anymore. But in my opinion it’s essentially a sustainable practice to utilize the tallow as long as we continue to raise and eat beef.
