Restoring a brush, question on the knot type

[Jcof3474]

I going to do my first brush restoration, and it is my grandfather's brush so I'm very excited to use this, however I am having a hard time deciding what type of hair to use.
Right now I am using a Vulfix Boar and I really love it, except I wish it were a little denser. I only use hard soaps so I like the Boar and I like to face lather, but the brush handle that I am restoring is 23mm. On the goldennib site they do have a couple of boar knots however the only one that would fit would be the 20mm one and it states that the base is actually 18-20mm so that would leave excess room and I don't know if it would work well.

So, that leaves me with the Badgers to look at. I am guessing that a Finest in 22mm that is extra packed would be more what I want since it would probably have good backbone. Anyone have any experience with the goldennib knots that would recommend a good one for soaps?


Thanks,
J.

 

[Alaskan Eagle]

Sounds like your on the right track with the finest. I have done one restore with a UK knot and I set the loft a little lower, I think it was around 50ish, and the brush has some great backbone. I actually just ordered a 26mm finest and hope to be gluing the knot in today or tomorrow. Hope that helps.


PS-This all boils down to setting the loft a little lower if you want backbone vs. high loft for a floppier brush.

 

[Jcof3474]

Thanks, I kind of wondered if setting it deep would change the overall backbone.

J.

 

[Schwert]

I used the 23x76 UK Super knot on my brush. I set it very deep for a 46 mm loft. It is a very nice brush...soft but with plenty of backbone.

If you cannot modify the depth you set it in the old handle be careful to order a know that will result in about the loft you want. The UK knot I used would be pretty floppy I think if it was not buried about an inch in the handle.


I think the 20mm boar would be too loose in your handle.

 

[Jcof3474]

I used the 23x76 UK Super knot on my brush. I set it very deep for a 46 mm loft. It is a very nice brush...soft but with plenty of backbone.

If you cannot modify the depth you set it in the old handle be careful to order a know that will result in about the loft you want. The UK knot I used would be pretty floppy I think if it was not buried about an inch in the handle.


I think the 20mm boar would be too loose in your handle.

It is a lucite handle, so I don't know if it could be modified (plus I don't have a tool to do that even it it could be modified, or the know how). It whole in the handle does go pretty deep, but I don't know if it would be a full inch. I will have to check on that to find out how deep it is.

J.

 

[DogHair]

I just ordered the 22mm finest extra. Shipped today. I'll post pics when it arrives.

 

[heirkb]

The 22mm Finest w/ extra hair is 24mm above the plug and it DOES NOT compress. That means that if you want to set it deep enough for it to be scrubby like a boar brush (47-48mm loft), you need a hole that is slightly less than an inch in diameter. Hope that helps

 

[RetroGrouch]

That's the knot I used in this brush. And yes, if you want to set the knot deep, you'll need to enlarge the diameter to 24mm or more.

Worth the effort!

 

[DogHair]

The 22mm Finest w/ extra hair is 24mm above the plug and it DOES NOT compress. That means that if you want to set it deep enough for it to be scrubby like a boar brush (47-48mm loft), you need a hole that is slightly less than an inch in diameter. Hope that helps

Does it need to be set deep? The site says 65mm which seems a little high but boring out an old Ever-Ready makes me nervous. I already cracked a few.

 

[RetroGrouch]

No, you don't have to set it deep. I just wanted a shorter loft. The plug is only about 6 or 7mm as I recall, so as long as you have a few mm beyond that, I would imagine you'd be fine.

Even with a long loft, I don't think these knots would become floppy. They're very firm and dense.