I received this guy today. It is a "No Patent Date" Double Ring. The "factory" banner in the lid of the case has been covered over with another advertising ribbon. Should I remove it or leave it as is? Razor should date to 1903-04. Look at the photos and tell what you think. Many thanks.
"No Patent Date" Double Ring Help Needed
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My eyes are not telling me what the red ribbon says, can you? How is the red ribbon mounted?
Very nice set BTW.
Very nice set BTW.
I'd leave it. It looks like part of the set, maybe a promotional add on by the seller?
Without question you should LEAVE IT AS IT IS!
It was not unusual for retailers to do that sort of thing, especially in the days before any of the particular manufacturers' names and marks were recognizable and "worth" anything. With it in there you know more about the set than just that it came from Gillette's early sales office in Chicago -- you've got the original retailer in Portland, Oregon. Imagine the trip that set had to make back in 1903 or '04 to get all the way out to Oregon.
Why in the world would you even be thinking of taking that label out? It's not like it would be worthless without it, but you've got an extra little piece of history there with that set that most others don't have.
It was not unusual for retailers to do that sort of thing, especially in the days before any of the particular manufacturers' names and marks were recognizable and "worth" anything. With it in there you know more about the set than just that it came from Gillette's early sales office in Chicago -- you've got the original retailer in Portland, Oregon. Imagine the trip that set had to make back in 1903 or '04 to get all the way out to Oregon.
Why in the world would you even be thinking of taking that label out? It's not like it would be worthless without it, but you've got an extra little piece of history there with that set that most others don't have.
I would leave it as is, because im pretty sure thats how it was sold to the buyer.
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I was actually thinking that leaving it was best, I just wanted confirmation,and you gave me a lot of confirmation. ; )
Ditto to above. Glad to see this one went to a good home too!
Like I told on on Saturday on the phone..Leave it due to the historic nature of it (It also is preserving the original one too underneath
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It reads "G E Ames C 2 Chamber of Commerce Portland Oregon".
Could this have been given out to men as they moved to Portland? The Chamber where I live mails out a "welcome" packet with useful information, coupons etc to people new to the area. Could this razor have been used in the same way?
Could this have been given out to men as they moved to Portland? The Chamber where I live mails out a "welcome" packet with useful information, coupons etc to people new to the area. Could this razor have been used in the same way?
Are you sure about the "C 2" part? It looked more like "512 Chamber of Commerce" in the original auction photos, which is also what Ed put in his description. I'm pretty sure it refers to the Chamber of Commerce Building in Portland, Oregon:
Judging from the address, since 512 would presumably have been on the fifth floor, I would bet that G. E. Ames wasn't actually the retailer but may have been the jobber who bought the lot from Gillette to sell to retailers. Gillette, as many other companies of the day did, relied heavily on independent intermediate distributors to actually sell their goods to individual retailers. Of course, Ames may have also been a larger regional retailer who kept an office in the Chamber of Commerce Building. I haven't had much luck turning up anything online, but maybe a more focused search of Portland sources would turn something up for you.
This old post was very helpful. 5 years later. Found some interesting info on Mr. Ames.
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Safety Razor Acquisition Thread.
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Safety Razor Acquisition Thread.
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Safety Razor Acquisition Thread.
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Safety Razor Acquisition Thread.
I have read in one of the Gillette books, that in the early "Double Ring Days", Gillette was known for sending complimentary razors to prominent business men that he found listed in the Marquis "Who's Who in Commerce and Industry". Perhaps this is one.
Double Rings are classic Gillette at it's best, and this one is all the more special because you know who shaved with it.
Cheers,
Kevin
Double Rings are classic Gillette at it's best, and this one is all the more special because you know who shaved with it.
Cheers,
Kevin
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