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Macduff’s Monthly Blade Review: Treet Carbon Steel

So i'm back with another monthly review. Something a little different this month. My Henry Cavendish soap finally reached it’s inevitable end so i’m now going to be doing my reviews with Van Der Hagen Luxury soap. To be truthful, the Henry Cavendish was pretty awful so it’s a very welcome switch. Nevertheless, each blade will still be reviewed based on a 2 pass (plus touch up) shave using a Van Der Hagen razor, (now) Van Der Hagen Luxury soap and a generic Fento badger brush. I run through 2 of each blade and use each 4 times; for a total of 8 shaves per brand. I'll be grading based on sharpness, smoothness, longevity and consistency. Price will be a factor but only of it's very cheap or expensive since most DE blades are pretty cheap comparatively.

This month is Treet Carbon Steel. The first thing i need to get out of the way is that the Treet packaging and blade are pretty much second to none as far as aesthetics go. Both the retro packaging and the black blade are old school cool. Needless to say i was very excited to try this blade. They don’t appear to have a US website and they’re manufactured in Pakistan. They don’t appear to have any coating at all but with the lack of info, i can’t be sure. So how did they shave? The term mixed bag came to mind...

As far as sharpness the Treet, frankly, was not. Shaves 1-4 all tugged and remained just a shade shy of unpleasant. These blades are definitely on the duller end of the razor sharpness spectrum. I wouldn’t go so far as to say it was uncomfortable, but ideal it was not.

Smoothness, well, that’s where these blades shine. Zero irritation, zero weepers and perhaps the smoothest shave i’ve had yet. I was able to get the second BBS shave of my life with the Treet’s; and after chasing it for so long, it’s no small feat.

Longevity was merely ok. My best shaves on both blades were shave # 3. No idea how or why; it’s just the way it turned out. But shave #4 showed a marked degredation in sharpness and though i think i could’ve pushed a few more out of it, it certainly wasn’t what i would consider a long lasting blade.

Consistancy was merely ok as well. Each blade shaved slightly different; though they both peaked on shave 3. The first blade seemed better on shave 4 but shave 2 on the second blade seemed closer than 2 on the first. Nothing earth shattering but not exactly a model of consistency.

As far as price, a 200 pack will run you 18.95 on amazon so they’re on the higher end of the price point for DE blades. Not break the bank expensive but certainly a think twice expenditure.

The final verdict was a tough one. For me, a BBS shave is a real rarity so to get one from the Treet means it’s undoubtedly a performer. But, the tugging during the shave was undeniably bad and the actual experience of shaving was marred by it. Based on results it was a 9. Based on shaving enjoyment, a 3. So i’m going to settle on an overall score of 6. It’s a very good blade and one i’d highly recommend for someone with sensitive skin. But for me, it’s just too dull to endorse wholeheartedly.

I’m aware that there has very recently been a lengthy discussion on this blade so i expect the comments to be minimal. But hopefully i added something to the discussion and you enjoyed the review! Next up is Tiger 3H. I’ll be posting it up soon because as you all will see, it was a short lived venture. Also, the Tiger review will mark my posting of pictures for the blades and wrappers. Not sure why i haven’t been doing it but going forward i will. Till then, happy shaving!
 
Yep.. Thanks for the review.! I used VDH soap again today with a Dorco Prime blade. I find the Treet carbon black to be sharper than you described " medium beard type though " It gives a nice smooth shave for me also. I find VDH soap to be very protective much like Catie's Bubbles & B&M soaps at much less cost.
 
Thanks for the replies! Fast Shaver i too find the Van Der Hagen soap to be very good. Worlds better than the Henry Cavendish soap i had been using before. I don’t recommend that soap to anyone. It was really thin and airy and had very little slickness for a supposedly dedicated shaving soap. Plus it was difficult to lather. Smelled great though hahaha.
 
Great review. They must put all their thought into the SE blades. Treet SE carbon blades are superb IMHO in either my ever ready 1914, flying wing or my more modern gem personna razor.
 
Great review @Macduff. The Treet blacks work well for me in razors that ordinarily would not feel as comfortable with a stainless steel blade.

I struggle to get more than two shaves per blade though, and have only been able to squeeze out a third shave in my Fatboy set to 9. But those first two shaves are excellent, but as you note, are not going to feel as surgically sharp as a contemporary stainless blade.
 
Great review @Macduff. The Treet blacks work well for me in razors that ordinarily would not feel as comfortable with a stainless steel blade.

I struggle to get more than two shaves per blade though, and have only been able to squeeze out a third shave in my Fatboy set to 9. But those first two shaves are excellent, but as you note, are not going to feel as surgically sharp as a contemporary stainless blade.

I wish i knew more about metal composition. At the risk of sounding stupid, why are carbon steel blades less sharp than stainless? I know that in the case of razor blades they are, but in the knife world it seems carbon steel is the benchmark for sharpness. I tend to think of carbon steel as being “softer” than stainless and therefore better able to take (but not hold) an edge. But in the razor blade world, it seems like no carbon steel can match up to stainless in terms of sharpness.
 
I wish i knew more about metal composition. At the risk of sounding stupid, why are carbon steel blades less sharp than stainless? I know that in the case of razor blades they are, but in the knife world it seems carbon steel is the benchmark for sharpness. I tend to think of carbon steel as being “softer” than stainless and therefore better able to take (but not hold) an edge. But in the razor blade world, it seems like no carbon steel can match up to stainless in terms of sharpness.

I'm right there with you on knowledge of the differences from a metalurgical level. My understanding is you are correct, carbon steel can be honed to a finer edge than stainless can be. This is where the various coatings applied to stainless blades coupled with the wear endurance of stainless give it the edge (no pun intended). These coatings fill in the microscopic imperfections from edge grinding giving a very uniform surface and enhance sharpness.

Whereas carbon steel does not need such coatings, it does not have the edge durability in such an application as razor blades and wears faster.

Again, my completely unrefined concept of the major differences between the two.
 
I really like these blades. Although they are not extremely sharp, they provide me with a very comfortable shave with zero irritation. As always, I very much enjoy reading your reviews. :thumbup1:
 
@Macduff : Just came across your reviews. They are excellent! Thank you for posting.

I tried a Treet this week and you are spot on. They are a bit dull, maybe sharper than Derby but not by much. I used a Rockwell 6C, on my usual plate #3, got tugging, drag and lots of whiskers left over. It trimmed the 2 day old beard vs. cut. I then placed a #5 plate, I never used this one before, #4 was the highest plate used previously. I got a decent DFS on the second pass. Less tugging, irritation free.
I conclude that it may be good in an aggressive razor. Wouldn't be my go to blade. I prefer a bit more sharpness.
 
@Macduff : Just came across your reviews. They are excellent! Thank you for posting.

I tried a Treet this week and you are spot on. They are a bit dull, maybe sharper than Derby but not by much. I used a Rockwell 6C, on my usual plate #3, got tugging, drag and lots of whiskers left over. It trimmed the 2 day old beard vs. cut. I then placed a #5 plate, I never used this one before, #4 was the highest plate used previously. I got a decent DFS on the second pass. Less tugging, irritation free.
I conclude that it may be good in an aggressive razor. Wouldn't be my go to blade. I prefer a bit more sharpness.

Thanks cytus! I’ve been slacking on the reviews lately. Usually put out one every 3 or so weeks but i’m like 3 blades behind at the moment. I may write up the lord ss tonight actually. The carbon treet was not my favorite though it gets cool points for the black blade. I’ve certainly used worse but i wouldn’t buy them again. Anyway glad you enjoyed the review!
 
I generally get very good shaves with these blades, however, I wonder if part of this is psychological.

The blades look different, and you are aware that they are indeed MADE differently. Therefore, I'm always very careful with them, whereas with stainless blades I am sometimes careless, or hurried.

The knowledge of the DIFFERENCE of these blades perhaps causes me to pay better attention and be more careful, which leads to a better shave.

Just a theory.
 
I recently got a Karve SB razor and am getting great shaves with the B plate with Gillette 7 O'clock greens, but every time I try the C plate I suffer some irritation. I wonder if I would benefit from ratcheting down the sharpness and try pairing the C plate with a blade like the Treet (I have one pack).
 
@Macduff, as always your blade reviews are among the best on the internet. You give it to us straight and we are all the better for it!

I only ever tried the Treet Black once, and once was enough. I inherited my father's iron beard and I struggle with certain blades. I found the Treet Carbon painful in the extreme. It felt like shaving with a paint scraper and couldn't understand how they would work for anyone. But we all have different hair and perhaps it really does work well for some. I said I would rather shave with Corn Pop's rusty pocket razor he banged on the curb and left in the rain barrel than endure another shave with a Treet! But for the people it helps, I'm glad they have it at their disposal.
 
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