Japanese/back and forth honing
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I use this style of honing sometimes when setting a bevel. Like if I have a problem spot on one side of the blade, I will do Japanese-style half-strokes with pressure on the problem spot. The I usually follow it up with 10-15 normal x-strokes...
Do you mean half strokes?
I use little pea size ovals that are more sided to side than up and down and they really make a clean sharp edge thats smooth. I think Iwasaki used a similar method honing Kamisori.
Ah, that slow kinda jerky movement where they try to keep the slurry on the stone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3SmHL2aRjM&sns=em
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I thought they were the same thing. Is there a difference?
If it has to do with Japanese hones/honing, it MUST have a fancy name.
It helps justify the high prices...
Well it kinda depend on what you mean. Half strokes are a back and forth motion in a straight line. Never heard of Japanese back and forth so I wanted to make sure before posting example for you
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I have found honing goes quicker using multiple strokes...odd I know..but it works when done right...
I have seen a vid of a Japanese barber doing circles with western straight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niRWxOBP-ZM
looks like it is also OK to finish on water.
I've done 1/2 strokes on a Jnat, works fine. As far as I can tell, there's no reason why it wouldn't.
Actually - it's sorta like a 1/2 stroke X-stroke blend. I don't like the results from honing straight-on and straight back.
The barber in the video - he really uses a lot of force with that Tomo and apparently that one side is uber-flat.
That's suprising to me. I never want a flattened surface that will suck down on the Honzan, and I never want to use that much pressure to raise slurry either.
I've seen traditional woodworkers approach their shapening/slurry-making process in a similar fashion. Freaks me out everytime.
Actually - it's sorta like a 1/2 stroke X-stroke blend. I don't like the results from honing straight-on and straight back.
The barber in the video - he really uses a lot of force with that Tomo and apparently that one side is uber-flat.
That's suprising to me. I never want a flattened surface that will suck down on the Honzan, and I never want to use that much pressure to raise slurry either.
I've seen traditional woodworkers approach their shapening/slurry-making process in a similar fashion. Freaks me out everytime.
the idea of the japanese style "back and forth" strokes is that on jnats the slurry or loose particles break down into finer particles the more you hone on them, thus getting a finer edge...
I'm pretty sure the slurry breaks down regardless of the type of stroke you use.
Most razor honing is back/forth actually. Even circles. But I'd guess that back/forth honing refers to using strokes, not circles or ellipses or whatever the stroke-of-the-week is.
But that's just a guess.
Most razor honing is back/forth actually. Even circles. But I'd guess that back/forth honing refers to using strokes, not circles or ellipses or whatever the stroke-of-the-week is.
But that's just a guess.
