Identification of Japanese Frameback

[oakeshott]

I picked this Frameback up recently. The box is labeled Hositennin Razor 3/4 and I think it's the original box. The Kanji that looks like a star on the razor's tang is also on the box under the words Trade Mark. One of the kanji, the one that looks like a pagoda, seems familiar. I just saw one like it recently, but can't remember where. Does anyone here recognize these and can tell me something about it?

The kanji on this side of the tang that looks familiar is the one on the left.
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The trademark kanji is the star in the middle of the other two.
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Thanks in advance. If someone needs better pics of just the kanji, let me know.

Btw, just put a bevel on it with the Chosera 1k that arrived yesterday. Maybe the easiest, fastest bevel I ever produced.

 

[oakeshott]

Bumping to see if anyone wants to take another crack at identifying this razor.

 

[Member357]

Better pics of the kanji might help, yes.

 

[oakeshott]

Better pics of the kanji might help, yes.

Point taken, thanks Brian. I got some better ones and, if no one minds, have another razor with pics I'm curious about.

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and the second razor:
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[Member357]

I'll try and have a look when i have more time, or ask the wife when she's not super stressed with the baby, but the first one looks like

登録　（とうろく）which means something like accession, registration/register, record (I'm assuming the middle thing in the star isn't part of a 3 kanji meaning - because the closest I can find is 禿　（とく）　which means become bald, wear, waste away, or bizarrely, little girl employed at a brothel!)

The second pic, the characters aren't quite so clear.
The first kanji looks like 全　（ぜん）　which means something like all, complete, entire.
The second i can't really make out. The left of the two parts of the second kanji looks like gold or money. It could be 鈿　（かんざし）which means ornamental hairpiece, but my dictionary doesn't show the two kanji having any meaning when placed together...


OH, and the last pic, the kanji looks like 理　（り　or ことわり）which means logic, reason, truth, justice, (could be a first name i think9 and the written downwards is the family name Nakamura.

 

[Brooksie967]

I bet they shave awesome once honed up! Someone will take a crack at it. I think the black handled one is a Fon Golden Star

Edit: i take that back, i don't think it's the fon star symbol.

 

[oakeshott]

I'll try and have a look when i have more time, or ask the wife when she's not super stressed with the baby, but the first one looks like

登録　（とうろく）which means something like accession, registration/register, record (I'm assuming the middle thing in the star isn't part of a 3 kanji meaning - because the closest I can find is 禿　（とく）　which means become bald, wear, waste away, or bizarrely, little girl employed at a brothel!)

The second pic, the characters aren't quite so clear.
The first kanji looks like 全　（ぜん）　which means something like all, complete, entire.
The second i can't really make out. The left of the two parts of the second kanji looks like gold or money. It could be 鈿　（かんざし）which means ornamental hairpiece, but my dictionary doesn't show the two kanji having any meaning when placed together...


OH, and the last pic, the kanji looks like 理　（り　or ことわり）which means logic, reason, truth, justice, (could be a first name i think9 and the written downwards is the family name Nakamura.

Brian,
Thanks for looking at this. I had a suspicion that the razor spent time in a brothel and couldn't be happier.

I bet they shave awesome once honed up! Someone will take a crack at it. I think the black handled one is a Fon Golden Star

Edit: i take that back, i don't think it's the fon star symbol.

Brooksie,
I've had the razors for a while and they honed up wonderfully (as seemingly nearly all the Japanese Western style straights I've come across do) and shave brilliantly. In fact, what prompted my adding the razor that Brian says has Nakamura written on it was that after a long hiatus, I shaved with it again and the shave was breathtaking. Don't understand why I neglected it for so long.

 

[oakeshott]

I was able to get a very kind gentleman to translatr the Kanji on the Razors. Here is what he told me:

Here are the Japanese letters and translation below;

It should be high quality Sweden pure carbon steel razor.

Kikusui and Mr. Hakamada was well-known razor maker in Japan at the time.
Of course, the maker was gone now.
Picture1: 登録（天人）――――Registered (Heaven Man or Star Man with Star Mark )
Picture2: 全鋼――――――――All steel
Picture 3: 500　S鋼　菊水―――――500 Sweden steel Kikusui
Picture 4: 袴田芳太郎作　　特級―――――――Hakamada Yoshitaro Made High grade
Picture 5: 理４１　ナカムラ―――――――― Barber 41 Nakamura (I guess the last name of the barber)