Id this Vintage Pelikan

[Vercin]

Was browsing antique stores Today .. this caught my eye .. It has the swan on top and on the nib I think .. could not see it good and picture is not really good (sorry) .. any ideas? or a link with vintage pen catalog .. I tried google and failed

It's a piston filler .. and that got me a bit worried because it was opened a bit as you may notice (hopefully) .. I didn't try to turn it .. it had ink smears on the nib as well .. is there a chance that it's not usable from old ink? and is the piston easy to fix if it's broken?​

 

[nemo]

Looks more like a Reform 1745 than a Pelikan. Need more pics.

 

[Vercin]

yeah I find that one on google when I tried .. but this one had the pelikan logo on the top of the cap .. and the black part is longer .. The shop owner lady was looking me funny when I took pictures and the lightning was really bad in there

 

[Vercin]

and I think it had written .. Germany on the nib or on the cap bottom ring

 

[Vercin]

I think I got lucky with the search .. fond it on some Japanese site .. it seems it's a Pelikan Student MK 10

So Pelikan piston filler easy to disassemble? like I said ink on the nib underside smears on the pen .. and I didn't noticed the transparent window .. so my guess would be dry ink inside as well ..

 

[syngent]

The pen had an ink window ? Man could be a lot of different things... was it solid green body like pen above ? And was the top of the cap above the clip flat or domed ?

Could be an old 120

 

[syngent]

Some pelikans you can twist out the nib, but not sure about that one... and I don't believe any pelikan other then the 800's and up or so can have the piston side of things come apart without some serious skill as they are not meant to come apart and are snap fit pieces

 

[Vercin]

its a flat top with a pelikan logo this one looks to be it .. MK10 on this picture I saw the window (on the pen I didn't that why i Suspect dry ink inside)

so that's my question now I guess .. if it is a case of dry ink .. is it a no saver? or hot water can salvage it maybe? .. this picture shows the nib and capilar removed .. but I have no experiences to tell will be easy to do


Thanks for all the input !

 

[syngent]

Maybe it will flush, not sure... but I have no clue about disassembly, hopefully Doug knows

 

[nemo]

Maybe the MK stands for Merz & Krell, they made many pens for Pelikan.

I've never encountered those. (yet)

 

[Vercin]

Armed with the new info .. this is what I found .. MK seems to be just the model designation.

"Merz & Krell didn't start producing pens for Pelikan until 1973 or so and only produced a 400NN and 120 variant for Pelikan. The MK10 was produced from the late '60s until '73,
before Merz & Krell started producing pens for Pelikan ... the Mk10 was the intro, or student entry, to the "Silvexa" line of hooded Pelikans. While others in the line had metal caps with striped or brushed (Silvexa) finishes and gold nibs, the 10 was plastic and plated."

 

[nemo]

Excellent detective work. New info for me, thanks Vercin!

 

[Vercin]

Thanks for the fast input as well.

Antique shops are fun for sure .. so much eye candy inside .. they had 4 pens .. but I could not find any marks (that I recognize) other than on this Pelikan ..

one had USA on the nib ( I think ) .. one was fancy with some sort of imitation reptile skin like pattern on the body .. and one had black body with "Goldy" inscribed on the cap.

Will poke around some more one of this days (will bother the nice lady) and maybe pick up one if she gives me good price.

 

[celestino]

Well, if it is a Pelikan, congratulations!

 

[ChefJohnBoy-ardee]

Most anything Pelikan with the Lizard skin demands a premium... MOST being key word...

 

[andrew98]

one had USA on the nib ( I think ) .. one was fancy with some sort of imitation reptile skin like pattern on the body

Check the one that has USA written on the nib. It might have a flexible gold nib if it's an old pen. Vintage Pelikans with lizard skin patterns are, as said above, generally valuable. I'd love to see a photo of that pen.

Also, avoid using hot water with fountain pens. Luke-warm or cool water is fine. Hot water can end up reshaping the feed if it's made of ebonite. You can also damage pen internals if the water is too hot. Just soak the nib and feed in a cup of cool water if there's old ink in the pen. The ink will flow out of the nib/feed into the clear water. That may loosen things up enough for you to remove the nib and feed. Then you can fill the pen body with water, let that soak, then clean the ink out.

-Andy

 

[Vercin]

hmm thanks for the input .. will check better .. on the lizard pattern one I didn't notice any pelikan markings on the body but I think it had made in germany written on someplace (the nib or the cap ring)

 

[Vercin]

the one that had Made in USA nib had the following written also

HUNTCO <- I think hunt was 100% last two were a bit hard to see
made in USA
Alloy tipped

and I think it was piston filler with green striped body (similar to say pelikan 100N)

oh man I made a mistake and mentioned MontBlanc .. and the dude turned into a suspicious dealer and pulled out 3 pen's .. the one with the red stone on the picture (Boheme) but after choking on the price and he noticing my pocket is not that deep he said he will bring in, some student versions of the MontBlanc he has, for me to see next time.

They had 50-100 pens .. and half were straight away junk .. broken/cracked .. the finer ones and older were missing the gold nibs (pulled to sell as raw gold I guess) and some were with bad shaped nibs .. twisted or such .. and all were filled with old ink but most had moving piston still .. I got down to 2 in fine shape mk10 and mk30 (or black mk10 not sure) and picked the black one .. he let me filled it up (with vintage ink he had for sale lol)

in the bad pile there was some Pelikans like 120 type I and type II and some maybe one 120 M&K and maybe one was 400 .. but this all had defects like crack above from over tightening the piston knob ​

 

[Vercin]

The last pen I may acquire .. I was wondering if you can trow in some pointer I had no luck. It had written on the NIB:

HUNT CO
Made in USA
Alloy tipped

​

also the pen seems to be a copy of the Pelikan M101N Lizard .. it's the same body and lizard tiles on the pen body .. BUT the cap is all black and has inscribed on the side in script: "Goldy" and has no markings other that those .. Pen has same shape otherwise.