I have several DE razors but find myself most often reaching for my Goodfellas' Smile Bayonetta !! It not only looks like a more expensive razor, but gives me a BBS, no matter what blade I use. AND today, 7\6, Amazon in the USA has it discounted to $49.99! Other threads have discussed this razor before, but I wonder how many people have used it. Take a look and if you have one what do you think?
How to be good looking at a reasonable price!
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ooopppps, I meant 8\6\2024 
$50 ain’t cheap. I’ve never spent more than $17 on a razor and I get a wonderful BBS shave everyday. If you’ve got money to burn or don’t seek value, I supposed the Bayonetta is a great buy.
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Sorry, didn't mean to offend you!
People have different price sensitivities. $50 might very well be quite inexpensive to some, particularly if they're accustomed to paying cartridge razor prices.
I’m not offended. But my pet peeve is how expensive shaving products dissuade cart shavers from coming over to DE’s and SE’s. I stress the affordability of wet shaving to newbies.
There are millions of razors available for less than $10 or $15 that will provide a lifetime of fine shaves. Vintage Gillettes and Schicks are fantastic, plentiful and cheap. Lord and Baili options for less than $10 abound. There is no need to spend $50 or $40 or $30 etc for great wet shaves.
To be fair, the Bayonetta is on the low end of the price scale for a new, fully-machined razor, in any metal.
If one cares about such things, it is a good value.
. Charles
If one cares about such things, it is a good value.
. Charles
It is priced close to my EJ 3One6 with my Muhle Rocca being another ~$15 on top of that.
With the cost of cartridges, a good Zamak DE is super cheap. Two multi-packs of cartridges are about $50 in many cases so, while not the best option for someone with no wet shaving experience that may be put off by the initial purchase price, I'd say my EJ 3One6 at ~$65 is a great place to start for many but, a ~$20 Edwin Jagger or Muhle Zamak DE89 is a solid option.
In terms of Injectors and old Gilette DE razors, I haven't seen any reasonable options for under $20 locally that weren't heavily corroded and nasty. And yes, I have tried estate sales, antique stores, pawn shops, and flea markets. To the folks that find the $5 Gilette, great for you and apparently where you live but, not really a good option for a new wet shaver IMHO. Locally, the few I have seen in reasonable shape generally started at $40 and went up from there. Everyone that finds a good one thinks that since it is old, it must be rare and in great demand and thinks they found a winning lottery ticket dropped in a parking lot.
With the cost of cartridges, a good Zamak DE is super cheap. Two multi-packs of cartridges are about $50 in many cases so, while not the best option for someone with no wet shaving experience that may be put off by the initial purchase price, I'd say my EJ 3One6 at ~$65 is a great place to start for many but, a ~$20 Edwin Jagger or Muhle Zamak DE89 is a solid option.
In terms of Injectors and old Gilette DE razors, I haven't seen any reasonable options for under $20 locally that weren't heavily corroded and nasty. And yes, I have tried estate sales, antique stores, pawn shops, and flea markets. To the folks that find the $5 Gilette, great for you and apparently where you live but, not really a good option for a new wet shaver IMHO. Locally, the few I have seen in reasonable shape generally started at $40 and went up from there. Everyone that finds a good one thinks that since it is old, it must be rare and in great demand and thinks they found a winning lottery ticket dropped in a parking lot.
I suspect the prices for used Vintage razors of all brands are much higher now than they were a decade or more ago. Everything else has increased in price as well.
The Gillette Super Adjustable, a razor that you use, averages at $40 on eBay. A Gillette Pocket, similar to yours, averages at $60 on eBay. Perhaps you're speculations are a bit unrealistic.
I won't argue with your basic point, but I do think you are optimistic on the price of a good vintage razor. Of the two I usually use, one is a ball-end Old Type that was around $12 on ebay. But it was that cheap due to a couple of badly bent teeth. I bought a repaired and replated head from Razor Emporium for $30. Their cap was no good, but I only needed the baseplate, which was perfect. Voila, a good as new Old Type, but it cost me over $40. I also use a Gillette Slim. The first one was $17 and worked OK, but was slightly bent and not the smoothest shaver. Years later I got another for $20 in near-perfect condition. That one is a great shaver, but the total cost was $37. I don't think these experiences are outliers.
Good looking at a reasonable price?
I go for a bag over the head.
I go for a bag over the head.
One minute of searching revealed the Lord L6 for $5.99, Bailli at $6.99 and a host of Gillette vintage options for $10-25. I found a mint SuperAdjustable for $5 at a thrift store. They’re out there
It's a beautiful razor regardless of price 
If you have patience, the deals are out there. You can get Old Type heads for a few bucks without a handle because the handles all split. Then get a couple News in bad cosmetic shape but otherwise sound and use one of the handles for the Old Type.
True, but the point I was trying to make above is that if you buy a 50-100 year-old razor for such a low price, it may not be in perfect working condition. You may have to buy a few before you find one that is a great shaver, or have one restored, which of course costs money with an uncertain end result. Not to mention the time and effort hunting for them, which is where the fun is imo, but you have to enjoy doing that. I do agree that brand-new ones from RazoRock or Maggard for $8 - $25, in addition to the ones you mention, are more than good enough to do the job. More expensive ones tend to be more customizable with multiple options for geometry and weight, which will be important for some. It's all a matter of personal preference.
Of course it’s a matter of personal preference but unless you’re an Arab sheikh with money to burn or someone who enjoys spending more money than necessary VALUE matters. Low cost Lords or Razorocks or Bailis provide fine shaves at little cost. Vintage provides superior quality at a bargain price. I’ve never spent more than $17 for any razor. My vintage Gillettes and Schicks cost $5 to $15 and are in serviceable to like new condition. They will last longer than I will. They provide BBS shaves everyday. Their VALUE cannot be exceeded.
Do what you want. I address my remarks to the newbies, to those contemplating the switch from carts. I want them to know that DE and SE shaving is far less expensive than carts; that it is an inclusive community open to all of whatever budget or class. Come on over!
I would argue the true metric is the per-shave blade cost, not the cost of the DE razor itself. I recently did some cost comparisons. In estimated numbers, let's say DE blades are $0.20/ea and I use them 3 times. This means that I need 365/3 = 122 blades per year, meaning my yearly per-shave cost (blades only) is $0.20*122 = $24.40/year. Let's compare that with the Defender (my favorite cartridge razor): Cartridges are $1.99/ea (when purchased in lots of 16+), and last, say, 9 shaves. This means I need 365/9 = 41 cartridges per year, meaning the yearly cartridge cost is 1.99*41 = $81.59/year. With these estimates, I would save over $100 in 2 years if I use DE blades rather than cartridges.
So we can see that the price of the DE razor itself isn't the only factor; shaving with DE blades is definitely a win in the long term for per-shave blade cost. In this example, someone might consider a quality $150 DE razor to be a good value compared with cartridge razor prices.
So we can see that the price of the DE razor itself isn't the only factor; shaving with DE blades is definitely a win in the long term for per-shave blade cost. In this example, someone might consider a quality $150 DE razor to be a good value compared with cartridge razor prices.
Yes, all good points. This is a great hobby with inexpensive antique collectibles that have an interesting history and are still usable today. But I would also tell a newbie who buys a beat-up antique razor at a flea market to be careful before putting a blade in it and putting it on your face. That's just common sense.
In case anyone has continued reading this thread to read peoples' opinions of the Bayonetta razor, there is a nice long thread here
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Goodfellas Smile Bayonetta
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