Did Dolly, Jaws girlfriend from 007 movie Moonraker have braces?

[Albert V]

For those James Bond aficionados, do you recall if in the 1979 movie, Moonraker, if Dolly, Jaws’ new girlfriend, had braces. Please, if you saw the movie, do not think hard, research or double check before you answer the poll. I will explain why shortly

 

[Eben Stone]

Spoiler: I remember the scene...

I remember the scene, but I can't remember anything about her. There was definitely something about the girl he liked, because I remember when she looked at him, he smiled with that full metal grin. I'm guessing she smiled showing her braces, but that might be my imagination.

 

[Albert V]

The purpose of this poll is to test the Mandela Effect. This term was coined based on a incident when a number of people believed, as I did, that activist Nelson Mandela died in prison in the 1980s, when in fact he was still alive, and released from prison, (and lived until 2013.)

There are a number of such incidents where one group of people have a memory about something while another group recall something different - and each group is very certain about that memory.

Some examples include the famous line from the movie Forest Gump when he sits o a bench and states - the way I personally recall it, “Life is like a box of chocolates…”, but now that line is “Life was like a box of chocolates…” Another example is from the TV show of the 80’s, the A Team. In that show BA owns a van. The van is black with a red stripe running diagonally. That is how I recall it. But, it turns out that van had three colors, black below the red stripe, and grayish above the red stripe.

There are numerous examples of this mandela effect. The one that freaks me out the most, and I am not alone, is Moonraker. This is the scene when Jaws pursues Bond and has a nasty accident and is trapped under rubble. A sweet, geeky looking girl with pigtails and glasses, comes along and helps to pull him out. Jaws looks at her and slowly opens his lips to show his teeth as he smiles. The geeky girl, Dolly, smiles back, opening her lips to reveal, as I vividly recall, her shiny braces. They both smile at each other like little kids in love, and bond, pun intended, as they then hold hands and walk away together. However, that never happened!!! She smiles but has straight teeth.

When you read comments on the internet, like youtube videos, you will see that a majority of people clearly recall the braces and how funny, charming and memorable that scene was. Some recall laughing out loud with an audience, or with friends when they watched, especially if they were with someone who had braces.

The implications can make your head spin. Yes, many Mandela examples might be simply misremembering, but not all.

So, is this a trick of the mind, or is our memory in intact but some of us came from nearly identical, but slightly different timelines, that are converging? I don’t know the answer but I want to. What say you?

 

[Tathlum]

I always remember her having braces.

 

[abies]

I kinda had a hunch it would be a Mandela effect but went with my false memory anyway.

 

[helicopter]

It is not different timelines; it is similarities in flawed memories from the same timeline. If you travel through time, there aren't actually any timelines. When you go from 2024 back to 1982, 1982 is your new present. if you travel on from 1982 to 1804, 1982 becomes your recent past, and 1804 becomes your new present. Move ahead to 2050, then back to 2024, and 2050 is your past and 2024 is your present.

Edit: There are some other models of it in fiction, like the startrek model with different timelines, but those ones don't actually make any sense if you think about it.

 

[nemo]

Honestly, I wasn't looking at her teeth. Don't recall.

 

[silverlifter]

The Mandela Effect is such a weird name for the phenomenon, as not only did he survive prison, he was the first president of South Africa.

The Gump Effect would be a much more appropriate descriptor.

 

[luvmysuper]

There are a lot of examples of the effect given by people that are just plain wrong.

Tinkerbell DID use pixie dust to dot the I in Disney.
The Target Logo DID use to have more circles.
The sun on raisin bran DID use to wear sunglasses.

 

[Albert V]

If you travel through time, there aren't actually any timelines. When you go from 2024 back to 1982, 1982 is your new present. if you travel on from 1982 to 1804, 1982 becomes your recent past, and 1804 becomes your new present. Move ahead to 2050, then back to 2024, and 2050 is your past and 2024 is your present.

Edit: There are some other models of it in fiction, like the startrek model with different timelines, but those ones don't actually make any sense if you think about it.

Ever see Spielberg/Zemeckis trilogy, Back to the Future

 

[Albert V]

The Gump Effect would be a much more appropriate descriptor.

Yes. Many would agree. So I decided to find a quick link to that scene to post here. The first one I looked at has 4 million views, and 6 thousand comments. The comment section begins with this comment “how many are here for the Mandela Effect”? And has over 400 replies.

As I mentioned above in my post, I recall “Life IS like…”, not “Life WAS like…”. The former seems to make more sense grammatically. Saying life ‘was’ implies a change. But life “is” implies a metaphor or philosophy.

 

[Albert V]

There are a lot of examples of the effect given by people that are just plain wrong.
Sinbad DID do a Shazaam genie movie.
Tinkerbell DID use pixie dust to dot the I in Disney.
The Target Logo DID use to have more circles.
The sun on raisin bran DID use to wear sunglasses.

But that’s the rub isn’t it. If there truly is something funny about our reality or timelines, then it becomes impossible to prove one way or the other. All we can tangibly prove is one reality - the one currently documented.

I kind of recall Snow White saying, ”Mirror, Mirror on the wall…”. But, the record shows I am wrong, she said, “Magic Mirror on the wall…”

 

[EclipseRedRing]

If someone can be so certain about what they have seen, and yet be wrong, then it makes one wonder about eye witness court testimony. In 2008, an analysis of 200 convictions later overturned by DNA evidence, found that almost 80% included at least one mistaken eyewitness. Of course I may have imagined reading that.

 

[Albert V]

If someone can be so certain about what they have seen, and yet be wrong, then it makes one wonder about eye witness court testimony. In 2008, an analysis of 200 convictions later overturned by DNA evidence, found that almost 80% included at least one mistaken eyewitness. Of course I may have imagined reading that.

Yes. This concept is the central theme of the great Akira Kurosawa movie, Roshomon.

 

[luvmysuper]

But that’s the rub isn’t it. If there truly is something funny about our reality or timelines, then it becomes impossible to prove one way or the other. All we can tangibly prove is one reality - the one currently documented.

I kind of recall Snow White saying, ”Mirror, Mirror on the wall…”. But, the record shows I am wrong, she said, “Magic Mirror on the wall…”

Part of the beauty of the internet is that one CAN look back and categorically prove a point because examples exist.
I looked up and saw with my own eyes the examples I mentioned.
People do disremember things, but some things remembered aren't wrong just because they are different today.

 

[DrStrange]

Spoiler: I remember the scene...

I remember the scene, but I can't remember anything about her. There was definitely something about the girl he liked, because I remember when she looked at him, he smiled with that full metal grin. I'm guessing she smiled showing her braces, but that might be my imagination.

That's the way I remember it too.

But ...,
I did remember something else wrong from that movie though.
The villain, whose name I cannot recall, trained his dogs to wait for his signal,
before eating their steaks.
I told a friend that he had placed the steaks on top of the dogs noses,
because that's what I thought I remembered.
As a result, my friend trained his dog better than the ones in Moonraker.

 

[Albert V]

I did remember something else wrong from that movie though.
The villain, whose name I cannot recall, trained his dogs to wait for his signal,
before eating their steaks.
I told a friend that he had placed the steaks on top of the dogs noses,
because that's what I thought I remembered.

I recall that scene very well. Drax placed strip of raw meat on the dog(s) snout and held still until he gave the signal it was okay to eat. Rather powerful scene.

Are you saying that memorable scene does not exist or has changed?

 

[DrStrange]

I recall that scene very well. Drax placed strip of raw meat on the dog(s) snout and held still until he gave the signal it was okay to eat. Rather powerful scene.

Are you saying that memorable scene does not exist or has changed?

I think that's what I'm saying.
I have this on dvd.
I'll be back as soon as I can find it.

 

[DrStrange]

I think that's what I'm saying.
I have this on dvd.
I'll be back as soon as I can find it.

I have the 50 year anniversary box set.
15 minutes and 40 seconds into the dvd
he's pulling the steaks out of a silver champagne ice bucket
with ice tongs and dropping them on the floor.
16 minutes and 44 seconds into the dvd,
he snaps his fingers and the dogs eat the steaks off the floor.

I'll continue to look and see if maybe there's another dog feeding scene.

 

[DrStrange]

I have the 50 year anniversary box set.
15 minutes and 40 seconds into the dvd
he's pulling the steaks out of a silver champagne ice bucket
with ice tongs and dropping them on the floor.
16 minutes and 44 seconds into the dvd,
he snaps his fingers and the dogs eat the steaks off the floor.

I'll continue to look and see if maybe there's another dog feeding scene.

I couldn't find another dog feeding scene in fast forward,
so now I'm going to watch the whole thing over again in real time.

Maybe it's the box set, or maybe ...