we need a thread going on before and after cleaning pics. to show guys (and myself) what they can do with that razor that may just be a little dirty so they dont have to pay crazy prices for ones that are all shiny. because id be willing to bet if they/I saw some of those razors before hand they wouldnt even want to handle them without a round of shots and some antibiotics much less shave with them. lots of guys and myself are missing out on some good deals because the razor might need a good cleaning. So post your before and after pics and give a little description of what you did to get it all cleaned up.