I guess an old dog can learn new tricks. I've been wet shaving the same way for many years ( with a Gillette contraption up until a year ago when I started with a DE--and never going back). And I guess some of my shaves were better than others but never thought that much about it--and the lather I made always seemed pretty good. But just recently I finished evaluating all my blades and ranking them for all of my razors (some of which were acquired after I bought a lot of blades--that's what started this whole thing). My evaluation revealed that my Derby's were not very good with my Super Speed, triangular hole TECH, or Muhle R41. I was just about to put 100 of my Derby's on BST when I accidentally had way too much water on a shave and found that I got a much smoother, closer shave using more water than I usually use. So I figured before I got rid of my Derby's I'd give them another chance using more water for the shave. So, long story short, I tried each of those razors loaded with a Derby, using a lot more water. Whatever the soap was, whether it was my MWF, Tabac, Cella, XXX, I'd let some hot water sit in the soap while I was brushing teeth, etc., and made sure my face was very well hydrated. Wow, what a difference! My Super Speed went from a rating of C to a rating of A+, the TECH went from a B+ to an A+, and the R41 went from a F to a B+. Of course, your YMMV, but had to share this.