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Actually, I think a small 9mm snubbie with moon clips would be kinda cool.
I rented a LCR and to my great embarrassment couldn’t get the first drum on the paper - forget about the target - from 15 ft. I had no problem hitting the center of the target at the same distance when I first shot LCP. Let alone bigger pistols.Actually, I think a small 9mm snubbie with moon clips would be kinda cool.
I had the LCR in 22lr, 22mag and 357Mag. I classify them as the worst triggers I have experienced in revolvers, second only to a Charter Arms Target Pathfinder. That was 11 years ago, I have not tried the current production.I rented a LCR and to my great embarrassment couldn’t get the first drum on the paper - forget about the target - from 15 ft. I had no problem hitting the center of the target at the same distance when I first shot LCP. Let alone bigger pistols.
Well a bad trigger could explain poor grouping but not being unable to hit a large sheet of paper at 15 ft, by someone fairly experienced with semis…I had the LCR in 22LR
I had the LCR in 22lr, 22mag and 357Mag. I classify them as the worst triggers I have experienced in revolvers, second only to a Charter Arms Target Pathfinder. That was 11 years ago, I have not tried the current production.
Sounds like enough trouble to choose another line altogether. After browsing the thread I am curious if there might be any similar issues with the LC9's since one is my edc.
I had the LCR in 22LR
I had the LCR in 22lr, 22mag and 357Mag. I classify them as the worst triggers I have experienced in revolvers, second only to a Charter Arms Target Pathfinder. That was 11 years ago, I have not tried the current production.
Taurus, RIA, SW, Korth and Manurhin (have to dig but they are there).Are there any other manufacturers making a current model of a 9mm revolver?
Not that I know of, off hand.Are there any other manufacturers making a current model of a 9mm revolver?
Are there any other manufacturers making a current model of a 9mm revolver?
From all of the reading and searching of just about every gun forum whose thread subject is an LC or LCP line?
There were a few LC9’s being complained about, but not anymore than people complaining and saying Glocks are unreliable?
For the most, LC9 owners seemed very happy with the quality and reliability of their LC9’s.
No moon clips required.
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The 9mm Rimless Revolver Pit Bull now features a 5-shot cylinder in line with the rest of the Pit Bull family. The 9mm uses same unique rimless cartridge extractor assembly system as the Charter Arms .40 caliber Rimless Revolver. A dual coil spring assembly located in the extractor allows...charterfirearms.com
Yes, I have heard that as well. Ruger's larger framed pistols used to be known for their ruggedness. Although I've never owned a Ruger before LCP. I just think that LCP suffers from trying to jam so much into such a tiny frame.
I don't know what kind of problems Kel Tec had with their original design that Ruger .. how do I put it nicely... built upon. Kel Tec isn't exactly known for their QC so it's hard to say whether there were inherent problems with that design, or just sloppy manufacturing.
I do suspect, based on all of the reports of people having the same problems with it that I had (hopefully in the past sense...) that there's some inherent difficulty with feeding and ejecting - perhaps, as you said, related to the weak recoil spring.
This makes a lot of sense now that I think about it. A stronger recoil spring makes the small slide harder to rack. This could be a problem for a segment of their target customers. So it' possible that they deliberately undersized the spring trying to find the good middle point between easier loading and reliable feeding, and in some individual pistols this shifted too far away from feeding / ejecting.
Which still doesn't excuse my sample requiring two trips to the mothership. Honestly, this whole saga makes me not consider any other Ruger models, there's just too much great competition out there. I bought a Marlin 795 for my kids, while not as customizable as 10/22, it's extremely reliable, extremely accurate, and was a whole lot cheaper.
Your post makes sense to me. While there are other small pocket pistols out there, I don’t think there is a comparable brand to compete with the round capacity of Ruger’s LCP Max.
I need to try S&W’s Bodyguard .380 and see how I like their true double action trigger.
I have a Kel Tec P11 and the only real criticisms were the cheap diminutive plastic sights and the horrible trigger pull. As far as functioning, it has been completely reliable. I have replaced the sights and will eventually change some springs and put in an MCarbo trigger.I don't know what kind of problems Kel Tec had with their original design that Ruger .. how do I put it nicely... built upon. Kel Tec isn't exactly known for their QC so it's hard to say whether there were inherent problems with that design, or just sloppy manufacturing.
They were however known for spotty quality, in addition to their out-of-the-box thinking and ingenuity. So you may have got a good one and someone else a not so good one.I have a Kel Tec P11 and the only real criticisms were the cheap diminutive plastic sights and the horrible trigger pull. As far as functioning, it has been completely reliable. I have replaced the sights and will eventually change some springs and put in an MCarbo trigger.
It' rare to have feeding and ejection problems in a revolver...Not familiar with the LCP but, my LCR snub nose in .356 is my favorite revolver. It’s hammerless, of course and I can easily drop in my pocket for easy concealment.
Agreed. As long as it stays cleaned, I’ve never had any issues.It' rare to have feeding and ejection problems in a revolver...